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What has happened to Sleep is for the Weak thread???

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claireybee · 17/07/2008 10:26

Don't tell me all your babies actually SLEEP these days?!

Actually dd (who I joined you to moan about months ago) now sleeps through more often than not, but only in the last couple of weeks and she is 2.

But now ds doesn't sleep. Usual night is up 6/7 times, although last night was only 3. I was looking for the thread for moral support and it doesn't seem to exist anymore

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sallyforth · 22/07/2008 13:22

oo what a brilliant blog... duly bookmarked, thanks!

Sariska · 22/07/2008 15:46

Hmmm, we had the waking for a feed last night (at 2.30am) and then refusing to go back to sleep. I'm staying with my parents-in-law at the moment and after two hours my mother-in-law heard the incessant baby babbling and arrived to take him off my hands for 3 blissful hours. (I will skate over the fact that she managed to get him to go back to sleep as I prefer to think that I was just too tired to manage it.)

LuXander · 22/07/2008 16:10

I'd like to join too, DD is 15 months old and doesn't sleep through. We've almost succeeded several times, but she always starts teething again before we've cracked it.

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claireybee · 22/07/2008 16:12

Sariska ds was extra unsettled last night too. woke at 10.30ish didnt got back to sleep til 12 then woke at 1.20 and was fussing and dozing until 5-had to sit up with him all this time as everytime I lay him down he cried again. Then woke again at 6.45

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claireybee · 22/07/2008 16:14

Hi LuXander, have faith dd seemed miles off sleeping through at 15 months but a couple of weeks ago it just seemed to click. Now I just need to sort ds out!

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Amberjee · 22/07/2008 17:04

i'm glad there is a new generation of SIFTWers It's nice to see. Though of course it's not nice that you're all completely exhausted.

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claireybee · 22/07/2008 17:18

You'd think I'd have cracked it by now Amber wouldn't you

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Caz10 · 22/07/2008 20:46

oh aaaargh please can people stop typing things like 15 months....

I know that none of us "get" why our LOs won't sleep, but I just don't GET it!

Reading all these damn books and my dd seems to do everything "right" -

she will settle in her cot
she doesn't need fed to sleep
she takes decent naps in the day (most days), in different places
most times if she wakes I can settle her without even picking her up now

According to the books if she can do all that she should be able to sleep through - Ha!!

Any thoughts?!! (she's 7mths)

Good luck tonight all!

sallyforth · 22/07/2008 21:23

I just read Caz10s post and got a bit worried...

... becauase I haven't read any of the books (DH has banned me from buying any more books as he says I just ignore them ... well my first baby book was GF ...)

He is 5mo and bf. Never slept well tbh.
I can only get him to sleep (a) in the sling or (b) by feeding.
He won't sleep in his cot, only in my bed with me. (don't mind this at night but not v convenient at 7pm!!)
He won't sleep for long in the day - usually 40 mins or so - record is 90 mins when Ver Ver tired
If he wakes in the night the only way I can settle him is by feeding him - think he is genuinely hungry most times

In summary I am doing everything wrong!!!

Due to start nursery fulltime in a couple of months arrggghhh....

Really don't want to try CIO - was thinking maybe I could try pick up/put down????

Any tips welcome!

zippyteedoodah · 22/07/2008 21:41

Hi Clairybee, little Zippette is our first, just think we've had a pretty hard time with her, so it will probably be quite a while before we're ready/have forgotten enough for no 2.

Ah, the joys of a cold with an already poor sleeper. Am currently feeding her off to sleep. Had thought she had done so well - sleepy after evening dog walk she went down awake in her cot, pulled over teddy and drifted off by herself. For a 10 min nap before crying to be fed. Sigh.

MamaChris · 22/07/2008 21:48

Thanks for pointing me to this thread LaTrucha ds is 5.5mo, and wakes every hour on a good night (much more on a bad). Has never slept more than 3 hours (at around 8 weeks). Looking to learn some new lullabies at least from this thread

loobyt · 23/07/2008 10:49

hi i'm new to this thread. ds 5.5 months and wakes 2-3 times in the night which i can just about cope with, my big proble is getting him to sleep in the evening, this can take a knackering 2-2.5 hours some evenings. we have always followed a bath, boob sleep routine but the minute i put him inhis cot he crys. bed time has crept upto 9pm so going to try for an earlier bedtime to see if that helps. fingers crossed!

Caz10 · 23/07/2008 13:04

Hi!

loobyt our going to bed times are getting better since i did a couple of things:

brought it earlier - she's asleep by about 7pm most nights
changed routine from tea/play/bath/BF/bed to tea/bath/QUIET play (hard to manage! Just basically put her on my bed in her jim jams with a few wee toys and ignore her for 20 mins ) then BF, bed

She's going down much easier now!

loobyt · 23/07/2008 13:07

thanks caz10, will give that a try tonight and report back in the morning!

Caz10 · 23/07/2008 13:15

(although staying asleep after 10pm...well that's another thing altogether !)

Caz10 · 23/07/2008 13:23

Oh - sallyforth - sorry! Listen, reading all the books has got me nowhere so I wouldn't worry!!

Interesting thread here - look at kirstin's post near the end - i might get yet another book!!

violetsmile · 23/07/2008 19:29

Oooo can I join in? I'm going to sicken you all and say that my ds slept through from 15 weeks 7pm-7am. Great you think.

Sadly it all fell apart at 8 months and has never slept through since. He's nearly 12 months now and I'm sooooo tired as dh works nights a lot and I'm up at least 3 times in the night.

Often to a baby who is not hungry but just wants to be cuddles, then screams when I put him down again arrrrgh!

What the hell have I done wrong???! Cancel that, I know exactly what I did wrong....

I fed ds to sleep for the first 8 months as it seemed to work and he was sleeping through so i never taught him to go to sleep alone.

Consequently, everytime he stirrs now, he cries for me and I dunno how to fix it!

I have now got him so that he will mostly go to sleep with me just standing in the bedroom just near the door way

but still he wakes in the night when he realises I am not there. Heeeellllpppp!!

MamaChris · 23/07/2008 20:15

My hv recommended the local child psychologists, who apparently run an intensive course for non-sleeping babies and would see us weekly, giving us small targets and assessing progress. Not sure what these targets would be, but the sound of someone to hold our hand as we try and work the sleep thing out sounds tempting. Has anyone tried something like this? Did it help?

sorry violetsmile - can't help. just sympathise. ds (5.5mo) is the same (although he's never slept through, ever).

loobyt · 24/07/2008 01:43

arrrrrrrrrrrrgggggg, in bed asleep for 8pm awake for feed @ 11pm and again now, gonna be a long night

loobyt · 24/07/2008 06:19

and 4am and 6am knackered!

meandmyjoe · 24/07/2008 07:17

Well I am in the same boat as violet. DS was a fab sleeper (11 hours straight) til 9 months. He's nearly a year old and his sleep is utterly crap . We started the day at 4am, knackered!

LaTrucha · 24/07/2008 09:52

Awful night. She just wanted to suck all night and now she won't nap. I was convinced we'd get a tooth this morning but NO show. When will this teething end? I don't stand a chance until it's over.

LaTrucha · 24/07/2008 12:06

We DO have a tooth! What can I expect now? MOre teeth? More pain?

Amberjee · 24/07/2008 12:14

MAma chris, I did see a child psychologist for ds sleeping at about 13 months and he was excellent and I would highly recommend it if you find a psychologist you click with. I had to change from the first one as she wasn't any help at all.
That said, I'm not sure about a generic sleeping course that has 'targets'. Makes me a bit suspicious. Would you feel like a failure if you didn't make the targets? Seems like a strange concept.

Sariska · 24/07/2008 12:34

There are no targets (sounds a bit too like a school report or workplace appraisal for my liking) but I have just consulted a children's sleep specialist re my 18 week old. (The thought of the current situation continuing for months more was just too much to bear, especially when coupled with a return to work....and DH wittering about how we should be thinking about producing child no. 2 in the not too distant future ) This sleep specialist has actually been really encouraging and has come up with a useful plan. It's not too dissimilar from what's in a lot of the books (the ones that don't advocate allowing your child to cry to sleep, that is) but it's been helpful for me to have someone sort the wheat from the chaff, as it were, and identify a course of action that might help my LO. We're only two nights in so it's far to early to assess its success but I will say that I am already surprised that - with perseverence - he will go to sleep other than by being walked round the house for hours. Basically I am making sure he is well fed and winded before putting him down awake and then shush-patting him (with the occasional round of his favourite nursery rhyme). I've even managed to get him back to sleep in the night on a couple of occasions without a feed, although he doesn't seem to stay asleep for long (e.g. last night we had wakings at 5.15, 5.30, 6, 6.30 and 7.10).

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