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7 week old will NOT sleep at night - despairing and exhausted

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cooltrimgirl · 08/02/2022 11:08

Hi all

My 7 week old is unable to sleep at night for any kind of significant period. He's always been a terrible sleeper but he used to be able to do a 2 - 3 hour stretch at the beginning of the night, and then do 40m - 1 hour stretches after that, but in the past week or so, he's lost this ability and can barely even do 40 minutes.

I'll either breastfeed him to sleep (he's EBF) and then hold him for a while before transferring to the crib, or I'll sway with him up on my chest for a while before transferring. The transfer is sometimes successful, sometimes not - but even when it's successful and he remains fast asleep, he'll wake crying around 15 - 20 minutes later.

Not just crying, he'll also be grunting, moaning, squirming, writhing, arching his back and scrunching up his body...

I'm worried I might be feeding him too often because often when he wakes and is upset, I offer him the breast. He only ever does 5 - 10 minutes of sucking, probably because he's getting it so often. I don't know what else to do though, often it's the only thing that calms him down.

I've gone through periods of thinking it's colic, then thinking it's reflux, now thinking it's lactose overload... My brain is turning to mush with the amount of exhausted googling I'm doing.

He's been on:

  • Infacol
  • Dentinox
  • Colic Calm
  • Probiotics

at various times

and I've tried:

  • Tummy massage
  • Bicycle legs
  • Starting a dairy-free diet (I'm currently on Day 4)
  • Reclining the cot, pre-heating the cot with hot water bottle

I use a swaddle and white noise. Unfortunately he won't take a dummy.

His dirty nappies are a dark green colour, and often quite "explosive". He seems to really struggle with farts and not being able to get them out.

He's gaining plenty of weight, so the GP isn't worried (she just said "sounds like colic, he'll grow out of it"). She said it isn't reflux because he's gaining weight.

He currently also has thrush on his tongue which doesn't help, but I know this isn't the sole cause of our night-time troubles because he had them before the thrush emerged.

His daytime naps are either in the pram (being pushed) or occasionally in the sling. He'll do around 3 - 4 naps per day, but I know this probably isn't enough and he's probably already overtired heading up to bed. It's very difficult to get him to nap though, he fights the sleep as much as possible.

I'm barely getting any sleep at all - the past few nights I've only gotten around 1 - 1.5 hours, and that's only because my husband takes the baby downstairs for that length of time before he starts work.

I dunno how much longer I can survive and it's already affecting my bond with him. I feel myself getting more depressed/despairing as the days go on. No idea how I'm supposed to survive until he potentially 'grows out of it' weeks from now.

One of the worst things is that my husband is convinced this is normal behaviour for a baby, which makes me feel like I'm going crazy because to me, it absolutely is NOT. He says sleepless nights are just a standard part of being a baby, it'll get better with time, we just need to push through, etc. It's easy for him to say this because I'm the one who's up all night (husband works so I let him sleep as much as possible through the night). I know that babies aren't good sleepers but waking 15 minutes after being put down? All night long? It CAN'T be normal in my opinion. Poor baby is absolutely exhausted in the morning and it takes ages of pushing the pram to finally get him to sleep.

Any help at all would be appreciated... I feel so awful but I'm starting to really resent motherhood and I long for the days and nights before we had him :( Thank you.

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Loopyloulou007 · 08/02/2022 11:34

My daughter as a baby, just didn't sleep, unless you were bouncing her in the bouncy chair. She was also breastfeed. We resorted to, putting the bouncy chair in the middle of our bed and just bouncing her, until we fell asleep, she woke up, without even opening an eye, would bounce again. It was horrendous, lasted til she was about 2. She also suffered from stomach migraines, which resulted in her being violently sick from 5-8 yrs, most nights, sometimes she even took her quilt to sleep in the bathroom, as she knew what was due as hated the fact that if she didn't make it in time, she was sick on the carpet and it stunk to high heaven. It was terrible and was forever asking for referrals from Doctors to try and get to the bottom of it. she was prescribed an elixir, which was alcohol based, so would just sleep.

She is now 17yrs old and just been diagnosed with ADHD. I do believe her brain, just never shut down and kept her awake and the stress brought on the stomach migraines, as it was just all too much for her little body.

Userblabla · 08/02/2022 11:41

GP is talking absolutely rubbish saying it’s not reflux as baby is gaining weight! Dark green explosive nappies sounds like CMPA to me so keep going with the dairy free diet I’d say and cut out soya as well. I’d also ask the GP if they’ll prescribe Omeprazole suspension to trial.

Avarua · 08/02/2022 11:47

I'm pretty pragmatic about feeding babies. I'd try topping him up with a bottle. Continue breastfeeding during the day but use a bottle and formula for the mid-evening feed (7pm). It'll give you a break and you'll have more milk when he is ready for his next feed between 10pm and 11pm.
You have breastfeeding established; mixed feeding introduced now might give you some sleep and sanity.

bombombo · 08/02/2022 11:48

I don't have much advice but DS was diagnosed with reflux at 4 weeks old despite always gaining weight brilliantly. Omeprazole has helped us a lot.

Avarua · 08/02/2022 11:51

At least that's what worked for me.

Look at the long game: I was able to continue breastfeeding till 1.5 years old because "topping up" with a bottle at night gave me some relief from it all (dh did bottle feeds until they were able to hold their own as wee toddlers)

AppleTangerine · 08/02/2022 12:33

My son never slept when put down or moved either but he and I did sleep amazingly when I gave up on the crib and bedshared... I fed lying down so didn't need to move to feed at night.

cooltrimgirl · 08/02/2022 14:51

Thanks very much for all replies - its appreciated.

Unfortunately, hes refusing bottles at the moment. Used to take Mam but hasnt been accepting them in recent weeks, screams snd cries and refuses to suck when we try to give it, so its breast only unfortunately.

Have tried cosleeping a few times also but neither baby nor I got any sleep, it definitely wasnt for us.

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PandaDander · 08/02/2022 14:53

Have you read up on baby sleep online? Sounds like the expected sleeping regression his age.

PandaDander · 08/02/2022 14:54

Could be allergic to dairy if refusing feeds

Fallagain · 08/02/2022 14:54

Sounds like reflux and missing you. If you are going dairy free it’s worth also going soya free or at least no adding in additional soya.

roarfeckingroarr · 08/02/2022 14:54

He's 7 weeks. This is normal.

MaraScottie · 08/02/2022 14:57

Apologies if this is a stupid question - but you haven't mentioned winding. Are you spending a good 20 mins with him upright after a feed? My son was riddled with wind and wouldn't settle at all until we spent sometimes up to half an hour burping him - bouncing on a gym ball, we did it all. But it took persistance to get those bubbles of wind up. It also got worse through the night as it would accumulate. But give that a go if you haven't already. If you have, sorry!

MaraScottie · 08/02/2022 14:58

Also, the fact he wakes up so soon after you putting him down is absolutely pointing to wind. And newborns are desperate for it.

BritishDesiGirl · 08/02/2022 15:00

It does sound like he's got colic My daughter had colic and would not sleep during the day AT ALL it almost drove me to madness.

By twelve weeks she had really improved, it is a waiting game. But it will get better

I know you might not want to hear it right now but it does sound normal.

Your doing a good job, you will get through this

NavigatingAdolescence · 08/02/2022 15:05

Fourth trimester. Babies don’t want to be put down to sleep for 3 months after birth (an “on time” human baby is actually 3 months premature). They want everything they had in the womb. DD slept on me for 4 months.

Our biology and brains are pretty much as they were in cave dwelling times. For a baby on their own it spells danger. That’s on top of all the growing, developing, processing and general newness of the world.

Can you split the night so your partner is awake for half and you the other?

DSGR · 08/02/2022 15:08

I’m sorry but this all sounds normal. Three kids here, went through this torture with all of them. It does settle down.
Can your DH cuddle baby til 1am so you can get a big chunk of sleep before he comes to bed? Then you take over for the rest of the night. It does get better

Mo1911 · 08/02/2022 15:20

Yup sounds familiar. My first son was up 27 times on the one and only night I could ever be bothered to count.

Hang in there, it's hard going but your baby is still tiny, seven weeks practically still a newborn. My son started sleeping through the night when he was just over four years old so it honestly doesn't last forever and they're worth every millisecond of lost sleep. 😊

FTMbg · 08/02/2022 15:21

Sounds quite like how our little one was. Is baby bloated and hard to wind? Other than the things you've listed, a dummy to suck to soothe gas after feeds and warm bath before bed helped ours. Hope you get some sleep.

cooltrimgirl · 08/02/2022 15:40

Thank you for all responses. It's reassuring that other mothers think this is normal behaviour. I get frustrated when my husband says it because he doesn't know any better, but hearing it from experienced mothers is different.

I'll persevere and try all tips you guys have recommended. I appreciate all replies, thank you.

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VickyL91 · 08/02/2022 16:42

I literally could have wrote your post myself.
Currently in the exact same boat and feeling your pain.
Mentally and physically exhausted and am out of options.
Mine seems to have day and night mixed up. Absolutely wide awake and totally wired all night and wants to sleep all day.

WouldIBeATwat · 08/02/2022 16:52

@VickyL91

I literally could have wrote your post myself. Currently in the exact same boat and feeling your pain. Mentally and physically exhausted and am out of options. Mine seems to have day and night mixed up. Absolutely wide awake and totally wired all night and wants to sleep all day.
Absolutely normal. Babies in caves needed to be alert to predators at night. Our brains haven’t caught up with societal expectations.

Also, whilst inside you did you not notice that they would be pretty still while you were moving around (rocking them to sleep) and as soon as you sat/lay down they would start a little disco? Same principle.

GeorgiePorge · 08/02/2022 18:14

my lo was like this for first 6-7 weeks.

He got really bad wind and if he fell asleep feeding would definitely wake after 15 mins.
what helped was holding him to me and patting his back firmly and rhythmically for about 15mins before he would eventually settle. even if he didn't burp it did seem to help the wind.

the green poo means they are taking on more 'front milk' rather than the fattier milk that comes later on into a feed which makes sense if you are feeding him little and often. Midwife said to me is of no concern as long as they are gaining weight.

It's horrific those early weeks but hopefully won't last long for you.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 08/02/2022 18:16

My babies were like this, would wake every 40 min for ages, always wanted to me held and rocked whilst they slept- so I agree with your husband!

Rosiiiiie · 08/02/2022 18:27

What happens when you put him down? You said he grunts/moans/squirms but does he cry? My 3 week old can take a while to fall asleep but we put him down while he’s awake and he’ll grunt a lot and fuss a bit but eventually falls asleep. We don’t pick him up immediately if he starts crying either, we wait and see if it’s a big cry or just him settling.

BumbleNova · 08/02/2022 18:37

Green and explosive poo very clearly indicates an allergy to something in your diet. That is most likely why the poor little thing is so uncomfy and can't settle.

I've had 2 allergy babies - I've got the t shirt. My first was allergic to dairy, soya and coconut ( I replaced dairy with coconut - bad move). My second is really allergic to egg, sesame and nuts.

Once you have cracked it it gets easier I promise.