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HELP - Next to me cot - 22 month old

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Newmummy39 · 31/07/2021 06:15

Hi,

In the next few weeks I'm going to work on putting my LO in his cot in his own room, but for now I need some help/advice on how I lay him down to avoid this issue I'm having when he wakes up in the night.
So last night he went down as normal and slept for 3.5 hours waking up for a feed at 12:30. It took me an hour to get him back to sleep because EVERY time I put him down on his side (he will not lay on his back as he stopped this as soon as he started to roll and is on his front petty much 24/7) he will be fine for a few seconds and then want to roll on his front to sleep....as he does this he gets himself in an awkward position which when I try to move he just then starts to crawl and throw his legs and arms about in cot. IF I don't move him he will get himself on his front but wake himself up and I don't know why as he clearly wants to be in this position. It took me an hour to finally get him down where he fell asleep on his side and then when I woke up a few hours later he was soundo on his front. Is this an issue with size of cot OR purely because he wants to be in a certain position I can't get him in. (He is nearly the length of the snuz pod) is there a way to lay him or a method that works with babies who want to sleep on front.

Apologies for the garbled message. I am half asleep and exhausted!
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Newmummy39 · 31/07/2021 06:22

22 week old *

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ReturnfromtheStars · 31/07/2021 06:22

Once they can roll onto their front (and certainly at 22 months) it's fine to put him down on his front. Hope you get some sleep soon

Temple29 · 31/07/2021 06:28

Getting him in to a cot will definitely help. Both of my DC sleep on their front and move around a fair bit before settling into a comfy position (still at 11mo and 2yo). It’s annoying in the beginning but just put him in and leave him be. The extra space in the cot will help.

CaramelWaferAndTea · 31/07/2021 06:44

He’s outgrown the snuzpod and the need to sleep on his back or side- time to move to a cot!

Cupcakegirl13 · 31/07/2021 06:47

Sounds like he just needs the space of a bigger cot now.

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Newmummy39 · 31/07/2021 06:55

Not sure if you all saw my correction. He's 5 and a half months

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CaramelWaferAndTea · 31/07/2021 07:30

Some kids just outgrow it early snuzpods aren’t that big. Cot in your room if you’re uncomfortable with own room just yet?

lboogy · 31/07/2021 12:03

If they can roll onto their front end back then there's no need to force them to sleep on their back. Let him sleep however he's comfortable

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Newmummy39 · 31/07/2021 12:47

@lboogy
He started rolling on his front at 13 weeks, but has yet to roll on his back, but holds his head up, so strong in that sense.

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FATEdestiny · 31/07/2021 17:07

You can remove one side off a full sized cot, and so turn it into a larger version of the Next2Me. Why not bring your cot into your bedroom and do that?

Seekingadviceplz · 04/08/2021 16:02

He definitely sounds too big for the snuzpod. In theory the snuzpod should not be used once they are able to roll. I used mine up to 5 months even though I probably should have moved him to a cot earlier. As well as for safety reasons, your baby sounds like he needs more room to roll about and get comfotable.

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Newmummy39 · 04/08/2021 19:22

@Seekingadviceplz thank you! I'm going to try it tonight. He is literally in the bedroom next door to us and I'll have the monitor. He rolls over onto his front, but he rarely rolls from front to back so that's a slight concern of mine. Should it be?

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Seekingadviceplz · 04/08/2021 19:27

As long as you lay him to sleep on his back, if he rolls onto his front himself then I wouldnt be concerned personally! There's really nothing you can do other than give him a safe sleeping space (no teddies, loose blankets etc). Mine started sleeping on his side in his snuzpod and when he moved to his cot he slept on his front. Hope it goes well!

MyGrassIsBrowner · 04/08/2021 19:34

My DD was a front sleeper from birth and I'm not even exaggerating. I had to move her from Snuzpod to her own cot at 4 months. She's 16 months now and still a front sleeper, I know it can be frightening but something you just need a little faith in them. If you have a breathable mattress in the cot you should be good and if baby can turn their head at least I wouldn't worry. I'll be honest though the relief when they start sleeping in their own room is amazing 😉

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Newmummy39 · 04/08/2021 21:44

@MyGrassIsBrowner @Seekingadviceplz

The mattress is by silver cross which is the same as the cot (I'm now going to be frantically looking at whether this is breathable although I know it is).

As soon as I put him down he will just automatically turn on his side and then later on front.

He's in there now and I'm so anxious! I'm desperate to go in there (he's been asleep for an hour) just to check on him. Arrrrggghh!

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MyGrassIsBrowner · 04/08/2021 21:53

@Newmummy39 I know this sounds absolutely mental but press your face against it really hard and breathe normally. You'll probably find that you can breathe absolutely fine, so if you can, baby can if they happened to go face down, but generally instinct will tell them to turn their head! Good luck mama! X

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Newmummy39 · 04/08/2021 22:08

@MyGrassIsBrowner just had a look at the description and then popped in his room to check on him. He's absolutely soundo and it's been 90 minutes so far.....eeeek!

Thank you ❤️

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MyGrassIsBrowner · 04/08/2021 22:19

Start as you mean to go on hunnie! Hopefully little one sleeps amazingly tonight 💗

MyGrassIsBrowner · 05/08/2021 09:48

@Newmummy39 How did little one sleep last night? x

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Newmummy39 · 05/08/2021 10:05

@MyGrassIsBrowner so, it started off well! But from about 1, he was waking every hour. He wasn't crying or doing anything that he doesn't usually do when he wakes up, but I think that perhaps he was cold? The temp in the room was around 21, but he was only in a footless baby grow. He did seem cool to touch on his chest and back, so tonight I am going to put him in his 0.5 tog gro bag. I stopped using them when he started to roll onto his front as thought they would would restrict him moving into a comfortable position. It's trial and error from here on in, but I can't really grumble about the first night! Thank you so much for checking in!

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MyGrassIsBrowner · 05/08/2021 10:11

@Newmummy39 Oh bless him, definitely try the grow bag though, I'm tempted to buy one of those myself this time round. They're fairly roomy though aren't they? It takes a bit of perserverance but you'll get there!
My DD sleeps from 7:30-8pm until 7 or 8am depending how lazy she wants to be, it's bloody fantastic 😅 good luck going forward hunnie! X

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Newmummy39 · 05/08/2021 14:43

@MyGrassIsBrowner I'm even going to take the snuz pod down today so I persevere with it. Sensible or crazy? The gro bags were an absolute godsend during the newborn stage.

I LOVE hearing stories like yours. How old when she started doing that?

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Seekingadviceplz · 05/08/2021 15:02

I would definitely put a sleeping bag on him unless it is very hot in his room. Mine is about 21 degrees in middle of the night and i have a 1.5 tog on him (hes 20 months), he moves about the cot a lot and it definitely doesnt restrict him, a blanket would never work as it would be off him in seconds. And if he is waking but not crying out for you then I would leave him and see if he goes back to sleep by himself!

MyGrassIsBrowner · 05/08/2021 15:05

@Newmummy39 definitely sensible! Well I avoided buying any sort of growbag/swaddle because I got a telling off from my midwife threatened with the whole SIDS thing and it freaked me out. But now I've done my research and seen how well babies sleep swaddled, the midwives/health visitors are getting humoured this time round. I even co-slept with my DD in the very early days, it was the only way I could get sleep!

She was about 5 months when she started sleeping through a whole 11-12 hours. But me and DP were strict with her routine and still are now. Bath, downtime, bottle, bed. It took some perserverance and stress to get there but the payout was so worth it. The only time we had a blip was when she was teething, but we had calpol and lots of teething gel on hand and that helped. X

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Newmummy39 · 05/08/2021 18:15

@MyGrassIsBrowner

It's all trial and error isn't it? I took what the HV said as gospel initially and then apart from seeking advice on here and with friends, I just ended up going with my instincts too.

We nailed the bedtime routine really early too and he always go down after play time, book, bath, feed and lullaby's BUT it's the duration that I'm really struggling with! Maybe he just has FOMO.

I've also discovered that he's certainly not a baby who likes to be inside for too long! He absolutely loves being outdoors. Love him.

Fingers crossed he starts to sleep for longer soon. In the mean time I'll soldier on! At least I've started the transition to his own room which I somehow managed albeit massively sleep deprived today.

Really appreciate you checking in. Mumsnet can really be a godsend ❤️

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