SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 8 -- Pack the bags under your eyes and join us!

[RoRoMommy]

Well...I had to think of something! DH's suggestion "Eyes wide shut--the art of sleepwalking"

amber thanks for that

meggy dd took aaaaaaages before any teeth appeared, despite teething forever

csb for those long naps, but and for the evenings. it will get better

EP - for better night but for dislike of bedtimes

ginger hi! hope you had a nice time with your dad

roro good news on the job front i hope?

tooth almost back to normal, allelluiah!!!! feel pretty much human apart from a bit queasy from the AB's.woo hoo.....and dd and i had a much more settled night for it. think the full moon must have affected us the other night

oh amber, just saw... for poor lo's vomit session. but glad he had a good sleep after it. he's doing so well

Morning all,

RoRo hope you had a more settled night.

EP glad you?re both feeling better. But also not looking forward to bedtime battles (for us bedtime is the only part of the night that?s actually easy!).

Hi Ginger ☺ glad your nights seem to be going well.

CSB ☹ for unsettled LO but at least you are getting some early nights! We went through a phase of that too, I think I was heading to bed with LO at 9pm for a while, did annoy me but probably gave me the rest I needed.

Tibs glad your tooth is better!

Amber hope you had a vomit-free night.

Ours:
Bed 7.30
Awake 10.30-12 screaming (at least it was half an hour shorter than the night before ) ? eventually settled with Medised and boob
Awake 2.30 (dummy)
Awake 5 (fed)
Awake 7.30 for the day

Still no sign of teeth though?

Not sure what happened to Ginger's and CSB's there...

Meg, hope the teeth come through soon.

CSB that's really tough, I call ds a Kling-on when he does that. Clings to mama all day and night.

Tibs, glad your tooth is a little better.

Hi Ginger

We had a good night. I went out to dinner and the little man slept through til 6.45 this morning

They are doing blardy renovations next door, so nap time is prob only 1/2 hour max.

Hooray for your sleep-through Amber!

Tibs: glad your tooth is better. I'm getting v blase about stuff I take while bfing, so would prob go for nurofen.

CSB: I think we've all been there! It does get easier, honest (then other stuff comes up but you don't have to worry about that yet ).

Meg: hope those teeth come through soon.

Ginger: glad you're enjoying the cpmpany. Hope they're playing with DD and giving you a break!

RoRo: any news re the job?

Slightly iffy night for us, DS stayed up till nearly 10pm (slaps wrist, must get bedtime routine back) then woke at 1, 3 and 5 but not for long and no screaming. Hopefully this is a sign of more settled times ahead...

Hello everyone! A quickie as I've got loads of work, but supposed to find out about the salary details of the job today, and more about the position itself. Hopefully not too far off from what I'm making now, though to make the move it would be worth a pay cut for more rest and peace of mind, I think...

Last night: down at 7:30, dream feed at 10:30, then feeding every hour for the rest of the night, and up at 4:45. I begged DH to take him so I could get some rest, and he relented, thank god. Back down for a nap at 7:30. (If only he'd just sleep that long!)

I am having some supply issues, which is why I think he's biting. I can't seem to get a full feed into him in a single session because my supply is down, maybe because I am only pumping twice a day instead of three times now? Kind of worried...might post over on the breastfeeding thread to get advice.

RoRo: have your periods returned yet? Mine did at about 3 months and my supply always drops before I'm due. Calcium supplements are supposed to help.

meg for the screaming. hope they come thru soon

amber - your evening sounds lovely. i call dd a klingon when shes like that too, or limpet!! she's taken to holding on to my knees with a vice-like grip if she wants me to pick her up. doesnt matter what i'm doing

EP yay for no screaming or long wake ups. hope you get your evenings back soon

roro - ive found that when i'm due on too. wouldnt have realised, but EP pointed it out to me! hope the work thing works out x

Mine haven't returned yet!

me either RoRo, we're lucky!

RoRo - how long has he been biting for now? here are my thoughts:

• he might be quicker and more efficient at feeding now so doesn't take as long as he used to
• may just be very distracted at the moment and finds it difficult to concentrate for a full feed in one go
• may be teething and is not particularly comfortable to nurse, hence disinterest and biting.

if you don't think it's any of these and you do believe your supply is down, maybe add another pumping session and nurse as much as you can in evenings/mornings and on the weekend. I would think by this time your supply would not suffer too much and it's more likely to be one of the above explanations or maybe something else entirely.

remember you can always talk through any BF issues with a BF counsellor

Breastfeeding Network Supporterline 0870 900 8787

NCT Breastfeeding Line 0870 444 8708

La Leche League Helpline 0845 120 2918

Association of Breastfeeding Mothers Hotline 08444 122 949

We should move into the hospital at this rate

After being up there this morning for an appt for his eczema, had to spend 4 hours in A&E this afternoon after we both took a tumble down the stairs

He's absolutely fine recovered after a few minutes' shocked crying with nothing worse than a bump to the head but I've been in a right old state. Mightily relieved that he's OK but feel awful about what happened (I literally just lost my footing somehow coming downstairs with him).

I think I'm due a quiet period after all the scrapes we've had this month...

Meggy, don't worry my love. At least you're both OK. There was a thread on here the other day for Bumbly who had forgotten to do the straps up on the car seat and driven away and when realised was overwhelmed with guilt. She had loads of contributors telling her about the scrapes they got into with their lo's. Yours pales into insignificance to some of them. I trapped DD fingers in the toilet door yesterday (really hard too) felt awful about it but (hopefully) there is no lasting damage.

Don't have long as still entertaining. Haven't sat down all day. It's flippin' exhausting having people stay.

Well, it's my birthday tomorrow and I'm back at work so I'll give you a shout then

Thanks Ginger and happy birthday for tomorrow.

What a nasty shock, Meg. Are you OK? DS is currently practicing trapping his fingers - in the door, in the cupboards, under the scanner...

Happy birthday for tomorrow, ginger!

Poor you and LO Meg, what a fright! Glad you are both fine, I think babies are designed to bounce Well done Amber for night out AND sleep, what luxury! Hoping things are settling down for you Effie, and am glad that your tooth is mending tibsy. What a sickly bunch!

This job sounds fab Ro, I hope things work out well for you

Can't really remember last night - oh, DS slept for 90 minutes when I was posting here last night [yay!] then I went to bed with him - a few feeds, the times of which I have given up noting, then really unsettled from 5 . I'm secretly loving the co-sleeping and caring a bit less about the early evening bedtimes, although I'm sure I'll eventually want more freedom. But the snuggling ... lovely!

Sweet dreams!

Happy Birthday Ginger.

I miss you to RoRo good luck with the job!! I always enjoy reading your posts they never fail to make me smile, thankyou.

Meg don't feel guilty accidents happen and as Ginger said the main thing is noone was hurt. You're right, you deserve a break and a rest now. The thing that I did, which still makes me cry when I think about it, was getting distracted and losing DS1 in the ELC when he was nearly 2. I was convinced he'd been abducted it was the most awful 10 minutes of my life and made me feel like the worst mummy in the world. Oh and yes I have forgotten to strap the Dcs in, luckily they have been old enough to tell me.

Sleep is still something I can but dream about [ironic emoticon]. Ds2 still cries ALOT, and I feel quite low about it most days at the moment. But life goes on and I know it is now a matter of time. It just seems a shame that I don't enjoy this time that I have with him as it is such unrelentingly hard work.

Totally x-posted!!!

Hello EP and CSB. I'm glad you're feeling more positive CSB. I also find it best not to look at the times DS2 wakes, seems less depressing/tiring that way!!

Oh my god, Meg, that sounds awful. What a relief that you're both feeling all right, but that's enough to put a shock into any mum. I hope you get a rest soon! You poor bears.

CM, !

Amber, that is really helpul, thank you! As I didn't get home until nearly 7pm tonight from work (was with a client), boobs were bursting and DS had the most fullsome feed of recent weeks. This is an example of why I think I should probably change jobs at this stage...pumped at 2pm before meeting off site, went to meeting and begged off at 6:15, got home at 7 to feed, put DS to sleep, now back at work and DH is annoyed because I can't concentrate on more than one thing at a time.

Thoughts?

Ginger, happy birthday! I know what you mean about entertaining, it's exhausting when added to everything else. I hope some of your guests can take tasks off of your hands, maybe?

CSB, I love the cuddles, too! I am glad you're managing to get more rest with the co-sleeping. I remember going through a stage where I stopped keeping track of DS's feeds because they were so often and I couldn't bear to know how much I was awake!

(((hugs)))

meg, goodness, hope things calm down soon.

in our house, ds won't go to sleep. vomit session and now he just wants to laugh and play. cute as it is, we just want to sit down and eat dinner. dh and i taking shifts to try and settle him ...

hello all, have you missed me? :O

i'm relly sorry, but dont think i've got time to catch up on posts, there really is a lot!

meg - dont worry about the stair thingy, when ds2 was a few weeks old i dropped him off the side of our bed....

ginger happy birthday hun

roro - i really dont know how you do it, i think you're incredible working such long hours and breastfeeding. you really are an amazing woman.

our sleep has been .....interesting to say the least whilst i've been away. DS2 woke every few hours for a feed and i then just fell asleep with him in my bed and ds1 slept with my mum. last night was the first back at home. both to bed at 6:30pm both awake at 3:30 ds1 for cuddle and ds2 for dummy and feed ds2 up at 6:30 ds1 up at 7:40 hope you all slept ok

Last night was rubbish. DS went down at 7:30, feed at 11pm, 1pm, rock to settle; went to spare room because DH was snoring, DH stormed in at 3:45 when DS woke up basically like, what are you doing in here, like the spare room is his bastion for extra sleep but not mine, then took ages to settle, then up at 6am.

I am KNACKERED. And pissed. I told DH that I didn't know how much longer I could do this job because I was so tired last night but STILL had to do more work, and he basically said stop complaining, you're stronger than that, carry on and you'll be fine.

I understand and appreciate the male-version of support that this is, but come ON!

Beal, yes we did miss you...sorry you're having such...interesting sleep! I hope things settle down now that you're back at home.

(((hugs))) off to work...

happy birthday to you,
happy birthday to you,
happy birthday to ginger
happy birthday to you
hope you have a great day!!

meggy that is scary. poor you and ds. glad youre ok tho x

csb so glad youre enjoying the co sleeping. i'm a huge fan myself!!

charlie - it will all be a distant memory soon, and you can get on with enjoying him. hang on in there lovely, youre doing a stupendous job. hope everyone feeling better

amber for another vomit session. hope lo settled afterwards

roro - that must be hard. youre doing a fabulous job my darling. any news on that other job? x oh, just read latest post. i'm sorry, but i think that was a little unsupportive, men can be so thoughtless sometimes, grrrrr. i know what he was trying to say, but that wasnt helpful (((hugs)))

beal welcome back lovely. last night was a good un

right. our night.
another sleep thru!!!
....but she woke at 5.30am
she's now fallen asleep on my boob and is having a nap
still, got us both dressed, breakfasted, have put washing on the airer, have put another load on and have vaccuumed
off for a rest now

Morning all

CSB so nice to hear you are enjoying co-sleeping. for snuggling

CM sorry you are still having a rough time, hope you are managing to find some time for yourself, even if it?s just sitting down with a cuppa instead of doing housework

RoRo you are doing amazingly well to manage working and a baby, it?s a tough balancing act, I haven?t really had time to follow your other thread as been up at the hospital too much but hope you can get into a situation you?re really happy with. I honestly don?t think I?d have the energy to work as well as deal with the nights and BFing.

Amber, hope LO let you eat your dinner in peace eventually!

Beal your night sounds good to me! Hope you enjoyed your time away

Tibs for sleep-through, well done DD. Shame about the early morning though ? bad enough getting up at 7 when it?s dark.

EP hope you had a good night too

Well, our night was pretty unsettled although there was a four-hour stretch between 10-2 and we went to bed at 10 so got a reasonable amount of kip. Still, despite me being due a quiet life for a while, this morning DS came out in hives while eating his Ready Brek ? think it might be a milk allergy as it?s happened before (though not so severely) when he?s come into direct contact with cow?s milk, though he hasn?t had any problems eating stuff that I?ve used milk in. So he was dosed with Piriton and thankfully seems to have subsided ? I think if I took him back to hospital today they?d have the SS onto me!

Anyway hope everyone else is having a nice morning especially the birthday girl Ginger!

hi everyone.

happy birthday ginger.

don't have much time, as have to start packing. LO is very good at helping, he climbs inside the suitcase and loves spinning the wheels.

had a decent night even though LO was soo hard to settle initially, 1 waking at 4.30, back until 7.30.