SLEEP IS FOR THE WEEK part 7 -- prop your eyes open with matchsticks here

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RRM, I've got an ergo carrier which is brilliant if you want something structured and you can use it for front and back carrys.

CSB: I can manage to get DS in and out of a back carry on my own, as long as I do it over the sofa in case he manages to wriggle out

Okay, I'll try the Ergo...where did you get yours?

hello all, just a quickie as having a nightmare day.

Ds1 is home sick with a cough and temp. Last night I was up with ds1 & ds2 taking it in turns!!

I just want to sit and cuddle ds1 on the sofa watching telly, but obviously with ds2 'don't you dare put me down' that is impossible. . Have decided that mothers spend 95% of their time feeling guilty about something!

Welcome to Urban and CSB. I know where you're coming from about naps. Thanks for the advice Beal. I had it petty sorted with DD, and feel confident I know when ds2 is tired. Problem is if he falls asleep in his carseat he wakes up the minute we get home. School/preschool drop offs and pickups are a nightmare. I feel like I'm constantly trying to time things to fit in around all the dcs, but I can't make it work. I'm sure there are many out there in my situation, but at the moment all the people in rl with babies seem to be having an easier time of it.
Probably should have sent ds1 to local school, but I didn't like it and the one he's at (10 minute car ride away) is fantastic.

I know life will get better, it's just hard to see when.

As for the 3 month life will get better theory. That's when ds2 stopped only waking once and started waking 3-4 times!!!!

CM, CRAP! Seriously, I don't know how you do it with three. At the moment, DS gets all of our attention and care, and even then we have little left for each other and ourselves. More LOs?? I have no concept how to fit that into the equation. Good for you for choosing a better school, that's great parenting. I hope your DSs feel better soon, poor bears.

(((hugs)))

Ditto RoRo - how do you manage charliemama - well done!

CM. Can you make a 'nest' on the floor with cushions and beanbags and all cuddle up together?

CSB: how brave are you feeling about manhandling your LO? I do the shoulder swing method as he is too wriggly to put him on the sling then haul him up onto my back. You lie your baby on the sling, tuck the top over his shoulders, grabe hold of a shoulder in each hand (crossing your hands) and swing him up and over. That's might not make much sense, but I'm sure there's a video of it somewhere on the internet...

Charlie that is hard. poor big lo! hope you manage to get some snuggle time with him

EP at your wheels!!! and those molars are just a pita. MMR am a bit anxious now, but biting the bullet [strong mama emoticon]

CSB - that sounds bloody awful. i remember the time when dd used to wake very frequently throughout the evening. i used to hate it. it really does get better tho, for us it seemed to just be a matter of riding it out not a big help at the time

roro - i need to invest in a new sling too as dd grown out of hers. am using a hip thingy atm, but its not especially comfortable.

ginger for dds night but for yours. maybe you need some medised

They came off when I was crossing the road - I think the parent behind me with the young girl was a bit shocked at my loud F*!!

at your wheels EP! you must have done too many miles in that thing...
what kind of new buggy did you get?
the ergo is very easy for back carries, defo.

ginger, your nest idea made me so long for DS and home!

We have done a LOT of miles. And it's been pushed through the snow and across Walthamstow Marshes (DH has a rather heroic take on walks). So it's lasted pretty well. We're getting some spare wheels off Ebay for future use. I got a cheapo Graco 3 wheeled monstrosity that's a lot lighter and can cope with up to about 30 kg so should last us a bit .

RoRo: I know someone with a sling shop in Walthamstow - they also do online sales www.thecarryingkind.com/

i bought mine online from the carrying kind and they are lovely.

me too! but I think they've stopped stocking the ergo now.

I'm wrong actually they do stock it (but you can get it a lot cheaper elsewhere.)

damn, where can you get it cheaper? i see its £59.90 on amazon, i think i paid about the same £60 if i remember.

BORN in Stoke Newingotn also sell them, but they're out of stock atm. They charge about 63 IIRC.

TCC are selling it at £70 though Amber so you did get it cheaper. I bought my Ellaroo from TCC and my Ergo from here but I'm sure I only paid £60 for it

TCK obviously, not TCC

Thanks Ginger, I'll order mine from your place, as Amazon don't allow you to choose a color as far as I can tell. Weird

Just spoke with nanny, who told me that DS's little girlfriend (they're both 7mo.) came over b/c mom needed a break, anyway they were both in the play pen together and DS took away my friend's DD's toy, then leaned over and tried to eat her! Like, wide open mouth, grunting sounds, grabbing at her, wanting to eat her whole.

He made her cry. Which of course is the moment that my friend decided to come by to retrieve her DD.

My child is a bully.

This is the first break I've had all day, dd has decided that naps are for chumps (unless we are poncing about town with the pram). The conversation has moved on a bit since 6 am hasn't it?

I just wanted to say welcome to Urban + also CSB, 45 minutes really really stinks. I hope you both have a better night.

lol RoRo, i think kids are just like that. ds does this really evil looking pirate face to other kids and sometimes its a bit embarrasing and he likes to pick on younger babies by grabbing their heads...

Ergos are great! I got mine second-hand from a fellow Mumsnetter, might be worth posting on the Wanted board in case anyone's selling one, or looking for them on eBay.

RoRo, DS gets a bit grabby at the baby group we go to (and has stuff grabbed off him in return). I figure they're all just learning about sharing...

Beal, how are things with DF today?

Hello all. I have been lurking today as I haven't had time to sit down and post anything.

Today wasn't too bad considering ds1 was ill. Your nest idea was lovely Ginger. Problem is ds1 likes me to stand up with him. Having said that I am tentatively reporting that I have noticed he seems a bit happier lately. He's still not keen on being put down, but will play for short periods on his mat.

Ds1 went to bed early. I am hoping he sleeps well tonight, but he'll probably wake at some point. he was refusing calpol today. Unlike dd who is a calpol junkie and tried to convince me she was sick so she could have some to.

Quick question re bf. Ds2 still feeds really frequently. I try to get him to go at least 3 hours but usually cave in before that. Did this happen with any of you? If so when did they start spreading them out more?

RoRo you're a constant source of encouragement about my brood (as are you all) Thankyou. I am amazed that you are coping with a baby, sleep deprivation and what is imo a full time job.