Sleep deprivation zzz

[Squeakybubbles26]

Just thought I'd start a discussion and see if anyone else is feeling that dreaded "are we going to get any sleep tonight" feeling...

Our background have 2 young girls 3y and 6months! DD1 usually a pretty good sleeper and DD2 was getting better HOWEVER Since Christmas it's been a lot worse .. both of them waking numerous times in the night but now the icing on the cake ...they both have colds ahhh!
I can feel it's gonna be a long night already, the baby is coughing in her sleep.

So I feel I need to either laugh or joke about it otherwise I'll cry lol soo anyone else wanna join my midnight party .. open til early hours come on in!

Im gonna say we are on wake up 5/6. This has been her worst night ever!!! She has a bedtime of 7, asleep by 7:30. Since we introduced this she has been waking more in the night. It was baby led as she was tired, and will go to sleep for 4/5 hours, then is up every hour/hour and a half. I might try a dream feed at 10/10:30 tonight. See if that makes a difference.

Morning. Mumsnet needs a sleepy emoji. So our night was not good at all. Constantly unsettled and random wake ups for dummy and light machine until about 12:30am, then a block of sleep until 3, then a night feed, then awake in the cot for an hour, then up for the day at 6:30. When I write it down it sounds so bad. I think I went in there about 6 or 7 times not including night feed. I'm back at work in February, I can't do a full days work on this level of sleep?! I don't know what to do?!? I don't want to sleep train and on top of that I just don't think it would work for my daughter, she just escalates when I leave her even for a little bit the few times I have tried!

@Redhorss my DD2 around 3months was showing signs she wanted to go to bed at 6,30 .. great I thought but like your LO would wake up more as the night went on. I think it settled about 5 months (hang in there)!

After our 1.5 hour of party/babbling time we eventually got back to sleep about 4.30 before her older sister woke at 5.50!

Anyone else struggle with wondering what's best to do sometimes?

@Lolacat1234 just wondered do you think it's the dummy causing her to wake more? Like when it falls out?

@Squeakybubbles26 yes I think that could be a problem. But we're so close now to the point where she can put it back in herself I am sticking it out, not sure I can cope with the fallout of taking it away. And yes I always struggle knowing what's best, some people telling me to sleep train and take dummy away as giving her the gift of good sleep is really important and others saying she just needs cuddles and will sleep when she's ready.

@Lolacat1234 hopefully the mastering of it won't take to long. It's such a hard battle, especially as you need your sleep too! I keep telling myself these stages don't last forever.

I have no words of advice! I only have one DD. It she has been a terrible sleeper from the age of 3 till now (5). I remember thinking in the first few years how the lack of sleep might actually kill me. But it hasn’t yet! Hurrah!

However, I feel like I have genuinely adapted to cope on less sleep. One full night of sleep can keep be going through about 10 days of broken sleep. Occasionally she’ll have a sleepover at Granny’s and that’s my catch up sleep. And occasionally she sleeps through the night.

Recently we’ve been really enforcing a decent bedtime routine and when she goes to sleep alone she definitely seems to wake up less in the night.

Keep going. Like my mum keeps saying, when they get to 10/11 they won’t want to be anywhere near you day or night, so it will come to an end eventually!! Lol

DS was very annoyed with me when I woke him up after his messing about last night. I have to wake him up else he doesn't go to sleep in the evening.
DD has decided to have a longer block now I'm awake, gah.

@Motherofmonsters how old are your little ones?

I feel like it's going to be a long day already 😥

DS is 2.5 and DD is 3months.

It's definitely going to be a long day. We're going for a walk around the gardens this afternoon so hopefully some fresh air will help

Grand total of 1h53m napping today. I've got to learn not to order food out because I always end up leaving most of it when he won't stop screaming.
Deep sigh! I'm bushed.

No idea how any of you with two manage it!

@GingerBeverage I hate the days LO doesn't nap well, means I get nothing done or when I get stuff done and finally sit down bla she's awake! Then it affects the night as well..hard to get the perfect balance!
Shame on the food, I've learnt sometimes I have to order picky foods so I can possibly if I have to eat one handed lol!

DD2 went down 'better' tonight all dosed up with a nice full tummy! Hoping for a better night ... if not Mumsnet will keep me company 😴

@GingerBeverage you say any of us with 2.. it's usually the older one that's harder lol! Well they want just as much attention!
I saw a lady with newborn twins earlier and was thinking how the hell does she do it, just think that when I have one of those bad nights!

Squeaky - Yes I saw a woman with twins strapped to her chest and a toddler in tow last week! Wowzers

First one is definitely harder, he's refusing to go to bed even though we've had a busy day. It sounds like DH is going through every book.

Hope a full tummy does the trick tonight for you

@Motherofmonsters did your DS settle down soon after? I do have a little chuckle when DD1 asks to do things typically at bedtime when DH puts her to bed - usually a poo🙈

They have all the tricks of the trade at bedtime I swear!

Hoping both girls are feeling better tomorrow tho, hate seeing them poorly 🤒

He did in the end, he pretended he wanted to see DD. He didn't just wanted to sit on me but DH redid his bedtime bottle and all went quiet.

I'm currently stuck in limbo as DD is asleep but Ive got a feeling she's going to wake up soon so not sure if I want to commit to sleep or just wait for her to wake. I could end up missing a block though.

How's things going your end?

If I was you I'd try and get some sleep, every little counts when there so young.
DD1 has woken up coughing poor thing, called me in and she's drifting back off but can still hear her coughing away.
Don't want to Jynx it but all is quiet from DD2 .. however with her sister coughing away who knows how long that will last.
My problem is I won't be able to sleep now for a bit until I know all is settled, every little noise I'm like "what's that" etc ah

We just did controlled crying with 12month old after a year of sleep problems. I genuinely feel evil. I feel like the worst mum ever
. He sobbed for ages and fell asleep in the corner of his cot exhausted

Well I managed a hour and a half so Was a good idea to get some sleep. I've just fed DD so waiting for her to settle down.

Hope they've stayed asleep for you. It's horrible when they have a cough, they always sound bad at night.

Don't feel bad about having to sleep train, tomorrow they'll fall asleep quicker. I ended up doing it with DS as he would be awake for hours at a time and couldn't get himself.off to sleep.

I will join! My LG (21 months) has a cold and keeps waking herself coughing and on top of that I also have a cold although I'm sure it's developing into the flu not felt this awful in a very long time. I can't breathe through my nose and when I breathe through my mouth it's agony. All of my muscles and bones are aching and I am going from freezing cold to boiling hot! Tonight is the second night I am so tired but getting so frustrated with trying to sleep I give up so going to browse through MN for awhile!

Well that might be a record for worst night we've ever had! From about 8pm-12am she kept being unsettled, crying out wanting dummy etc, then a longer block from 12-3:45am and I fed her at this point, then another block until 6:30. It's that big chunk of unsettledness at the beginning of the night that's new and I don't know what to do about it! She's always had a night feed and I'm ok with it but I feel like she's not getting a restful sleep if she keeps crying out and tossing and turning for hours.

@Motherofmonsters how was your night after? DD2 was up twice in the night and we ended up having an early start but thankfully I don't feel to bad today .. tired I mean lol!

@rumandbiscuits aw I feel for you there's nothing worse dealing with a poorly child (at night) when you feel crap yourself and just wanna sleep. Have you taken anything to help yourself through it?

@Lolacat1234 ah sounds like you've had one of those nights from hell. :( is there anything that could be causing your daughter to wake/not settle etc. It's so hard to get this sleep thing under control especially when your having disturbed nights and feel exhausted yourself. Did she sleep much during those blocks? Lots of cuppas for you today!!

@Lolacat1234 we had this with our son. Except every night was like this and sometimes a long crying wake up between 4am and 6am. It's so awful. Poor you