SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 5....... God have mercy!

[Tamdin]

Can't believe we're onto another new thread already!

I'll be interested in the night scratching movements meg, how fascinating! i hope it helps some though, that would be great. when LO had bad eczema my dr did advise just to bathe him less often. but he does lurrrve his bath so! Happy anniversary love.
My dh had the day off apart from a conference call this mroning, so we headed off to jamie olivers fifteen for lunch. was quite good and lots of fun. Lo had a good time and managed to hold out until 3 when we got home for his nap.
tibs, you're doing fab, you are such an inspiration to all of us! don't worry about the other folks, they don't know what it's like having our LOs. And you totally know it's nothing to do with you as didn't your ds sleep through from 3 months. It's just how your dd is - she's a little feisty one, like my ds.
hi MM, wow 3 teeth

thanks meg and amber, am feeling a bit brighter. think its coming back home after being on lovely hols and having to set the alarm for ds to go to school as well as a non sleeper and yes, ds did sleep thru from 3 months. i was blessed!!!

amber, your outing sounds lovely what did you have to eat...go on, indulge me!!

meg, i hope the trial shows some improvements for lo. happy anniversary for!!! i hope you have a lovely time.... i'm sure dh wont mind missing the pub action for one night

hi all. sorry very quick post as it's bath time. wil come back later.
just wanted to give virtual hug to Tibs. you're the best mummy ever and don't let anyone make you feel differently!

amber very of your trip to fifteen. want full run down on what you had to eat please!

Meg my dh is also a fan of the old medised.The slightest inkling of a cold or teething and he's asking me if ds should have it. At least he asks me and doesn't just go ahead and give it to him. well trained

IBS didn't swaddle ds either so am no use to you on that front. It wasn't for want of trying. had read such good things about it but even in the hospital the midwives couldn't get him to keep his arms in. so typical of his personality now that i know him!

mummymagic glad your dd settling back down again. I'm convinced ds has started the process of getting his last molars (thought it was supposed to be aged 2 )so we've got that to look forward to!

Tibs glad you had good holiday. Post hol blues always get me too. I have to have something planned (even a girls night out for a few drinks)to look forward to.
next big thing for me to look forward to is my 30th on 30th sept!
staying in the 'dylan' hotel in dublin with dh and another couple. can't wait. It looks good but have never stayed there before.

anyway best go ds been in bed since 7 so off to spend QT with dh.
catch you all later

Am also very of Fifteen trip. Pre-DS, would regularly go to dinner with a couple of girlfriends that I used to work with, we would try a different restaurant every time and have loads of wine... one of the few things about pre-baby life that I miss!

The best one ever was Claridge's, with a few other people from work... was just amazing. Have heard v good things about Fifteen too.

Hi everyone,
Tibs - I hope you're feeling better. You really a great mummy, and quite an inspiration to me.
Mummymagic - glad things are calming down a little.
Meg - the trial sounds really interesting. When do they plan to install the water softener?
Amber - yet another for your lovely meal out. We've not been out for lunch too often recently, but I have been pleasantly surprised by how many of our old haunts have welcomed DD - the wolseley were especially friendly.
Tam - the plans for your 30th sound fab. DH and I have started thinking about our joint celebrations in the spring. Will probably be Manchester-based so that grandma can babysit .

Crap naps here again, and DD got really quite upset at lunchtime. Really not sure this "no daytime swaddling" is worth bothering with, but DH and I agreed that we'll give it a week. Only 5 days to go !

ps just started watching supernanny. two sets of twins !?!

Meg, trial sounds really interesting and happy anniversary.

Amber, also jealous of 15 visit. I'm working near there at the moment.

Tibs, you are a gorgeous lovely mummy, as Baz said. An inspiration.

Tam. 30? You're a youngster. I feel practically the oldest person in the world at the moment. I'm so old i can't even remember if I'm 33 or 34.

Baz, have you tried putting DD on her front or side? Certainly helped settle my DD. I know the advice is not to but side sleeping was the only thing that settled my DD.

DD's first full day at nursery today. She had a morning nap but nothing until 5 minutes before DH picked her up so was very tired and took a long time to settle tonight. She was OK apparently but I was in knots at work. She came back smelling of nursery like a hospital. But at least she was happy and sociable enough while there. She also played with felt tips today and drew her very first picture. I never thought I'd do it but I had a lump in my throat looking at that little 'picture' I always vowed not to be one of those mums that decorate their houses with Lo's art work but this one is in it's rightful place on front of the fridge. [sob]

What a talented DD Ginger . Tried DS with some crayons but he just ate them. Don't think he'll be artistic.

Tibsy, sorry you're feeling a bit down. I don't mention DS's sleeping to anyone if I can help it, as their reactions do make me feel as if I'm making massive mistakes. We're all doing the best we can, so any tutting people can sod off! Would also suspect that many people are lying about their babies' sleeping habits.

DS very restless last night, but managed a couple of tottering steps today! He's asleep at the moment, but took ages to settle. DH looked in as he was bouncing around his cot and commented that you could hear his synapses buzzing. All go at the moment.

Tam, you youngster! I am also in the camp of forgetting my age unless I count on my fingers.

Just a quickie - Effie just read your post from couple of months ago (must have missed it ) that you are in Stamford Hill! How weird.

Yes, all us Londoners should meet up. Can do next Wednesday? But will be working (temporarily!) on Weds from 19th Sept- Boo.
Who wants to meet? Could do Tate Modern (free and big)

There's a few of us in and around n London, MM... I'm up in Enfield. There was mention of a meet-up a little while back but I don't think it got past planning stage!

Morning all,

Ginger - how cute that DD is creating works of art! and well done to you all for getting through day one at nursery so well. I'm sure it can only get easier for you all.

Re: the side sleeping thing. I wouldn't be worried about the safety, but for some reason DD has decided tummy and side are for playing and rolling, back is for sleeping. We've tried to encourage her otherwise as she even has a wee flat spot at the back of her head as she loves back sleeping so much. It's a good job she's got a good head of hair to disguise it.

EP - first steps - how exciting! No wonder DS has been a little unsettled.

Meg and Mummymagic: Don't forget this solitary South Londoner if you're planning a meet up . Although have oyster, will travel.

Rather remarkable night here, after a crap day. DD went down at 7.15, resettled after half an hour, then that was it until 4! up a couple more times since, but who cares .

Hope there were more good nights out there.

morning ibs yay for your night thta's amazing

good night here. asleep for 7pm, woke at 1 (in with us and 4oz milk) woke at 7 for the day

of your possible meet up

Tam and IBS, wow! of your great nights. They keep us going, huh.

I decided not to give dd any medicine even though she is still teething . So, we had up at 10.30 - long time to get back to sleep and 2.30- didn;t go back to sleep til in bed with me at 3.30!! then asleep til 7am. The 'good' thing is that she is really really trying to get back to sleep.

So she's getting the drugs tonight! It's hard cos she has sort of needed them every night for about 3 weeks but obv i haven't given them every night...

Anyway, cbeebies on now and I am waking up with a cuppa.

Think I will take dd to Tate anyway next Weds 12th, so if anyone wants to meet up then let me know here. Tam, don't want to leave you out - we will have to do some sort of phone-conferencing !

meg, would love to try claridges - mr ramsey can do amazing things with food (despite his personality, or maybe becasue of his personality!) i've been to boxwood cafe whihc was pretty sensational.
the wolseley is great too. must make another trip. my dh is a bit of a foodie, so we lurrrrve to eat at yummy places.
ginger you should go by 15 one day for a treat. i like it how you can go to the trattoria and its a bit more casual or you can go downstairs for a fancier meal. it must be hard having dd at nursery, but of course harder for you than her. i'm sure it will be great for you both and you'll treasure hte time together even more.
EP yay for first steps. Again, no wonder he can't sleep!
MM I'd be happy to meet up if people are keen.
IBS and TAm YAY for excellent nights.
But I'm going to go one more - ds slept 8pm to 6.45am!! Not a murmur. But I had to get up to express my exploding boobs at 4am and then found it hard to go back to sleep. But still. yay yay yay.

oh forgot to tell you what i ate. i went very fishy and had a linguini with monkfish for primi and Wicked Sicilian fisherman?s stew of Scottish langoustine, monkfish, Dorset scallop, razor clams, squid, mussels & clams with saffron potatoes, sourdough bruschetta and lemon aioli and desert Baked apple tart with truffled honey ice cream. also a glass of wine. yum!

Morning and for good nights!

Ours was OK, aided by a dose of Medised just after bedtime when he had an inconsolable screaming fit (think that 2nd tooth is getting ready to pop through). Woke at 11, 2.30-3.15, then 5.15 and in with us til 6.30.

Great nights! Especially pleased for you Baz, you've had some tough ones recently. And sleeping through, Amber!

We had a bad one, not sure why but hot weather, teeth and sniffles all played a part. DS was in with us but kpet waking up crying and took ages to get back to sleep each time. Kept meaning to give him some Medised but too bleary-eyed to get the bottle and find a spoon! May put it by the side of the bed tonight just in case. He was finding it hard to breathe through a stuffy nose and it was v hot and humid last night. Hoping for an improvement this evening.

MM: I think I'm free next Wed (don't work Weds) and would love to meet at the Tate if possible

for your night EP, hope ds settles down, wonder what the crying is about.
what time are you thinking next wednesday MM?

amber for your night. so jealous. food at 15 sounded fabulous.

speaking of mr ramsey. did anyone read the tana ramsey and her sister interview at the start of te times magazine on sunday. She sounds liek a 1950's housewife and a pita. sorry might be biased as she does my head in anyway. she's too perfect there must be something going on!

sorry forgot to say for ep and meg's ds's. poor things. ep sounds like teeth to me.

6 day a week housekeeper, tam. say no more.

exactly! and the fact that gordon is not hands on and expects the house to be tidy when he gets home!
oh and he missed the birth of his children because he likes oral sex too much...wtf

oops didn't read the oral sex part!!
i mean i would predict gordon to be a hands off dad if you look at all the businesses he runs, but still a little sad. i'm so glad when i look how happy LO is when dh is reading him a book in the evening etc. he loves his dad like crazy.

but seriously, you'd have to be a little odd to be married to gordon right?