SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 5....... God have mercy!

[Tamdin]

Can't believe we're onto another new thread already!

oh our night was just standard. nothing good, nothing bad. 12 and 4 feeds, but up at 6.45.

sorry nipped out for coffee with mil then sainsburys.
IBS got friend coming for lunch today and ds loves her. she's just back from 2 weeks in ibiza so looking forward to hearing what rl people with no children get up to

ginger hope nursery visit goes ok. I have cold too. must be going around glad dh did last night so you got a bit of sleep.

amber of baby cinema. 2nd what ginger said about london. you just don't get that kind of thing in belfast!

hiya all and welcome to pantsface and welcome back to MM

well, we're back!!!!!!! had a FAB time even tho it p**d it down for most of it and yes, we did get VERY soggy
we stayed on a sealed knot site initally and dd completely surpised me by sleeping thru cannons firing off (very loudly) and raucous parties in the next tent this from the girl who wakes to a pin dropping usually
the fresh air definitely agreed with her and she woke just once a night for a feed she was an absolute dream and loved being in the outdoors. ds was a bit mardy (but hes now officially a teenager, so we expected that!!!) dp and i even managed to visit the party tent central for a drink whilst dd slept and ds read his books
anyway, we're back now for dds birthday next mon then we're pushing off again before dp has to go back to work. thank heavens for the summerhols!!

i have glanced thru the posts, but soooooooo many. just wanted to wish meg good luck with the move and ginger good luck with the childcare situation. good to 'see' you all again girlies

oh yes.... and a stick of virtual rock for all!! mint, humbug or fruit flavas. take your pick

TIBS yay you're back
we're off to jersey on sat. not very glamourous but hotel is lovely (L'horizon in st brelades bay for those who want a nosey) and the beach in front of it is so safe it's like it was hand made for children. Mil coming too which is good as she's good fun, can babysit and is paying

btter go. have spent entire of ds's nap on mn/tesco order instead of preparing lunch for friend arriving at 1

missed ya

Tam I do believe I met my first 'love' (read infatuation) in that hotel.

Tibs, so glad you're back and glad you had a bit of respite too. Sounds lovely. (what's sealed knot?)

Nursery was great. I feel really happy about it so signed her up on the spot. DH is taking her for her first settling in session on Thursday and she'll start proper on the 5th Sept (two days before her birthday. I feel really that I'll be working on her first birthday. Actually I feel terrible about it. I know she won't know but I will.

ginger so glad you found somewhere you like. I never met a lo at nursery who didn't sleep through the night. think it's the new found independence they gain and plus they're bloomin knackered so you might be in for a full nights sleep on 5th sept!!

are you from jersey ginger or were you just on holiday? I love it there. Dh's parents used to go every year when him and his bro were small and then we starting going with them about 10 years ago for easter break. It's perfect atm as it's short flight, beach and tax free shopping! am planning on doing some serious damage in kurt geiger!!

Evening all... just a quick hello before an early night (removal men coming at 8am tomorrow!). Tibs glad DD enjoyed camping! We have been camping in north Wales (Llyn peninsula) but not Pembrokeshire. Main memory is of nearly having to sleep in the car on the last night as a ginormous storm practically flattened the tent.

Ginger that you found a nursery you're happy with and good luck with going back to work.

We have been taking turns to entertain LO today while the other one packed... just about all done now and kicking back with pizza and glass of vino. Ho completely refused to take a third nap today so we'll see how he sleeps having just had morning and lunchtime naps of an hour and a quarter each.

Anyway we are being reconnected to the internet on Thurs so will see you all then -- hopefully with some good sleep tales all round

tons of luck with your move

hope move goes well meg. catch you at the end of the week.

Hi cupcake

Hi - I'm a non-sleeper who'd appreciate any words of advice or encouragement.

I haven't had a reasonable night for eight months: I had excruciating back pain in the night for the last two months of my pregnancy and since ds was born six months ago there have been three nights (at three months) when he slept for seven hours but these were a totally false dawn and he continues to wake up to feed between two and five times every night.

Dd slept through from three months so ds's behaviour has come as a bit of a shock to the system. He is a cheery, thriving, breastfed baby and I'm hoping weaning which I started in earnest last week is going to eventually settle him.

Is there light at the end of the tunnel? Please say yes!

Last post before bed and the dreaded return to the big bad world of work. DD woke about 30 mins ago and was inconsolable for a while. We gave her some medised at bedtime cos she's got my cold so thought that would have sorted her out. Not sure what the problem is. DH said he will take over tonight as I've got a 'big day' tomorrow but I want to sleep with my baby. Feel really sad about it and if I can't be with her in the day I want to sleep with her at night. can see co-sleeping in our bed returning. Might not dislike her room so much if the matress wasn't so thin. It's rom a sofa bed so about the thickness of a slice of bread. Very uncomfy.

Tam No not from Jersey, was having my first hols away from parents at the age of 17 so obviously fell head over heels for a local boy.

Anyway, night night all. I'll try and catch up in the evenings or the weeekend but will be thinking of you all.

Morning all,

Ginger - I am very glad that you have found somewhere you feel comfortable with. I am sure DD will have a whale of a time, and make lots of new friends. I know it will still be really hard for you, so wishing you lots of luck.

Hi Mamita - welcome. My DD is a wee bit younger than your DS, at 5 months, and is also something of a night owl. I'm full of adiration for you, coping with a non-sleeping baby and an older child as well!

Meg - hope the move goes smoothly, and that DS is not too unsettled. You never know, his own room might be just thing to help him sleep through .

Tam - your weekend sounds lovely. How sweet of your MIL.

Tibs - glad you had a lovely, if soggy time. Very interesting to hear that the fresh air agreed with DD.

morning IBS well done dd staying in her own room all night can she come teach ds how to do that
a detective eh? no white lies for you then
(actually take that back.I find it mildly irritating when people say to me all the time " oh does that mean dh is always analysing you" ...apart from the fact i have heard it about 100 times it also couldn't be further from the truth, i'm the over analyser!)

welcome mamita second what ibs said about coping with no sleep and an older dc. you deserve a medal! my ds is 10m on saturday and still wakes once or twice a night (ona good night) but we co-sleep most of the night so it's barable.

Ginger good luck today. will be thinking of you

Our night was good.
bed at 8(cot)
in with us at 11
Milk at 2 (half awake)
Up at 7 for the day

that should have been 19m on sat!

oooh a detective!! glamourous
yes, we went to see waitress at muma nd baby cinema and it was great and for once LO was perfect!
mamita, sorry you're having a lot of sleepless nights.i think it does get better but i just don't know when. we are at 7.5 months now, and pretty stable at 2 wakings a night, which isn't great, but isn't horrible either...

hi all!
welcome mamita

ginger i'm so glad that you've found somewhere for that lovely girlie of yours. good luck today love sealed knot is british civil war reenactment malarkey. dp into it big stylee. always thought it was a bit nerdy myself, but having spent the weekend there, changed my mind. lovely bunch of people, the battles were FAB and they sure know how to party

meg, good luck with the move my darling. catch you when you're reconnected

tam, jersey sounds lovely and 10 mths i thought

ibs for odd night, but for staying in own bedroom. we toyed with the idea of moving dds cot into the garden too

hi amber, cupcake et al xx

our night good, bed at 7pm, woke at 3am for a feed, then nothing til 7am. gotta dash, off to m & t

good night tibs.

our naps have gone arse up today due to LO being awake between 5 and 6.30 and then asleep until 9 i've just tried to put him to bed, but i don't thinkhe's going to be easy to settle sigh. i must be such a routine fiend, i rely on it to know what time to put him to bed. how on earth are the naps going to work today!!

www.sleepisfortheweak.wordpress.com

I just posted an amusing piece on sleep training - a baby's view...

well, took dd to a new M & Ts group this a.m. didnt have a nap til 1.30pm, and she's still asleep, 2 1/2 hours!!!!! and, yes, i have checked on her to see shes ok

amber, hope lo decided a nap was a good idea ......oh, and i loved the post, bloody hilarious!!

Evenin' all,

Amber - how did the nap thing pan out in the end? Loved that post (and the others!) on the blog.

Tibs - did DD eventually wake, or is she still a little sleeping beauty ?

Tam - glad you got a reasonable night in.

Meg and Ginger - hope things well well for you both today. Let us know your news!

Hoping for a good night (optimism over experience given this week) - hope you all have a good one too.

IBS - i just went shopping and he napped in the sling! thought i might as well take advantage of a pathetic nap day and do some stuff.

Aaah - bless your DS napping in his sling.
I have just ordered an Ergo, as DD outgrew her Bjorn rather quicker than most. I hope that the new carrier will bring as much serenity as the old one!

Hi all - and thanks for the friendly welcome and kind words.

I think I could survive on a max of two wakings. I'm trying water tonight, I've heard this can bore them gradually into not waking if they're not really hungry. But he's not a big one for bottles so we'll just have to see.

Wishing you all a good sleep.

i lurrrve the ergo.

mamita yeah two wakings is Okay. Not great. but okay. definitely liveable. better get to bed though!

hope everyone has good nights.

i'll be interested how the water goes mamita, LO has never really taken to a bottle, so i can imagine he would scream even if i gave him a bottle of milk. or he might just be really confused and look at me as if i was crazy