Early wakings really effecting family!

[SnowWhite26]

Hi
So i no this is about the millionth post abput a 7 month old waking at 5 or 5.30. My issue is that its different everyday and its really effecting me which effecting my family. Basically he can go through without food but in a way if he wakes at 12 or 1 for a small feed he will prob sleep till 5.30,6 or 6.30.I ignore him or give him a small feed at this time but if he wakes up we take it in turns to get up.last night he went 7 till 5 with no wake ups but milk and leaving him wouldn't work and i eventually angryly gave in at 5.45. I think i get so cross coz i no he will be ready to bk to sleep by 7 or 730 so makes breakfast etc all over the place. My 3 year old used to wake early and eventually stopped so i no it does. I just get so cross. As i have quite a few friends who say all i do is give them.milk then they go back to sleep on them for a bit or they go back in there cot. Why does my baby not do this! Yesterday he slept till 6.30 with a little feed at 12 the night before he woke for a small feed at 11 but woke at 5.30 for the day. Its just so all over the place. I no he does ok with sleep but im so tired with my 3 year old as well. Is anyone else in this boat? Why do all my friends babies go bk to sleep at 5 or 5.30? I feel like my husband is going to send me to an asylum if i keep going on like this. I was so unreasonably angry this morning after all my calm effort to get him back to sleep.I no my husband is finding it hard with work and 2 kids and a crazy wife! Anyone else? Thankyou x

@Ginnymweasley I could put my kids to bed at 10pm and they'd still get up at the crack of dawn, that approach does not work for everyone!

Well my first dc woke every hour for the first 9 months of his life and my youngest (she’s 4) didn’t t sleep through at all until she was 3 YEARS. Dp worked away a lot when she was tiny so I ended up staying with my mum on and off as I started hallucinating. Get on with it and tell your husband to stop fucking moaning about your baby.

My son is two and a half and slept beautifully till he turned two. We then got night wakings, bedtime battles and hideousness. He now goes to bed really well (after three months of heck) after stories and we leave his bedroom door open. He sleeps all night.

And now wakes up at anywhere between 5 and 6. He comes in to our room and occasionally goes back to sleep. More often though, like today, I am downstairs before long as he likes to shove his feet in your face in our bed. So I just go to bed earlier - I’m never up later than ten (very rarely) and make sure I get plenty of sleep that way.

Reverse lie ins helped when he was smaller - I went to bed half an hour after he did occasionally. Meant I got longer sleep just less of an evening which was a compromise I was willing to make at that stage. I know one day I’ll have to knock the bed over to get him out of it - for now I just soldier on with gallons of tea. I think I’ve adjusted to it.

I’m afraid you’re just going to have to crack on. At that age you’re getting a great night anyway. To put it as exhausted and angry is a little bit much imho.

What's going on is he's adjusting as he grows. They all do and actually it's probably impacted by the recent clock change.

You need to be adaptable as they change all the time. I was blessed with easy sleepers. Into bed, asleep by 7 ish. However my DC are both larks and now at SEVEN and TEN 😱😱 still wake most days at 6.20. Even when they have gone to bed late the night before on a Saturday.

My 7 yr old has slept until 9am once in his whole life when he was ill. Other than that I can't recall the last time either woke after 7am.

That's not their fault and I would love a lie in but you have to adapt.

At 7months you can easily both (you and DH) go to bed earlier whilst things adjust. You'll learn some coping strategies to for when the next bout of crap sleep comes along, as it will.

Can you and DH take in turns for lie ins at the weekend?

I no we have to adapt we did for ages with our 3 year old. But i guess that why it feels so much harder this time coz we have 2 of them. We try and take turns. He has just gone to bed so will see what happens tommorow. Hope its not 4! He has been so grouchy all day coz he woke up so early! X

At that age I don’t think ds was going to bed till about eight and then sleeping till seven. Later bedtime?

He is tired by 6.30 i dunno how id keep him up

Go to bed earlier yourself! Won't be forever.

My DS got up between 4.30 to 5.30 everyday for years, I felt like it was killing me at the time and it was nothing to do with food, he was just an early riser, it slowly moved to 6 ish and then a bit later and was great when he could get up himself. Sorry no help but it’s very very common

If you want them to sleep later you may need a later bedtime - some babies sleep 12+ hours, others (like mine) never slept more than 10-11 at night so they went down around 9 and woke around 7, 8 if we were really lucky. By 5am your lo is ready to start the day because they went to sleep so early. Oh and I night fed until 18 months (bf) on demand we co slept. I broke most the rules basically but I'm not a morning person!

But how do you keep them up that late? Mine are so tired

Keeping mine (they are older) up late isnt an issue. It's just they STILL wake between 5 and 6, so they are tired the following day. The only time we seem to get away with it is with time zone changes - so I suspect it is to do with waking 13 hrs after dinner rather than 11 hrs after bedtime.
I've made my peace with it. We will all be larks! Well, except DH, so I do most weekends too......

We sometimes keep Ds up later. Weekends mainly. Even then he only tends to sleep until 7.

We just let him play with his toys play with him read books. All downstairs.

Some days he is clearly exhausted - he’s at nursery 3 days a week so is busy there and only has the one nap. Usually in the mornings. So he is tired. And he will sleep. But a bedtime of 7-730 always means a wake up of 530-6.

Apart from today actually. He’s still snoring away...

But how do you keep them up that late? Mine are so tired

You have to adjust their entire schedule gradually, like you do when there is a clock change.

Up until 11 months my baby was up every 2-3 hours. Now he sleeps through but is up at 4, try not to get upset, it will pass, I usually just go to bed with the baby at 730ish because I'm so tired.

If I need mine to be up later for whatever reason I usually try and give him an extra nap late in the day (although not always easy to achieve!)

Hi everyone! I am a new mummy and my baby is 3 months old now. My baby only sleep 2-3 hours during the night and it really affecting my energy on the day. I hope so much that my baby can at least sleep for 5-6 hours and i am contented. I am becoming a crazy mummy soon. I've come across a lot of blog and about whether should i start to co-sleeping my baby. Can anyone give any feedback on this?
Thanks alot

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blackcat86 You sound quite horrid.

3 year old DD has only slept later than 5am a handful of times, but I'm grateful she goes to sleep by 7 and I get a good chunk of evening time. DH and I go to bed early we need too.
You do get used to it!

So update. He seems to be waking up an hour earlier each night for a feed. If he goes from bedtime till 3 without a feed then feeds he eill sleep till 6 or 6.30. But this is rare last night it was 1.30 had a 6ox feed slept till 5 now awake! Ppl have suggested about naps effecting sleep. The thing is how do you stop baby falling asleep in car or buggy for cat naps. Best my oh said we should let him sleep as much as he liked in day as seems tired so woke at 5.15 napped from 7 30-10. Then slept for 20 mins in buggy 11.40-12 woke up coz put him in car then slept an hour and half 3-430 and went to bed ay 645. All naps without bottle abd settling himself. He had 4 bottles in day (5.15-6.45) but didn't come cloae to finishing 2. Tiday we are out abd about so naps will be his choice i guess. Im so down again. He seems so tired and all over the place. Hes not the only one! X

Snowwhite that first nap 7:30-10 is your problem. How to keep him awake ? Play with him ! Stimulate him, avoid journeys in car/buggy and that first nap should be just 1 sleep cycle (so 45 minutes)- yes you have to wake him.
Look you have 2 choices,;
1)accept your baby's sleep (which as others have said isn't at all bad).
2) Commit a couple of days to sorting out the early mornings, during which he will be grumpier tban normal and the rest of family will have to curtail their activities.

So you make sure ur in to he house for every nap?

It just seems un natural and weird putting hin for a nap at 7. Does anyone else?

He is tired by 6.30 i dunno how id keep him up

Well, you would if you travelled somewhere with a whole new time zone, let alone when the clocks change - you make it a longer bath (or whatever he likes), faff around a bit longer at bed etc. For mine it helped to move their naps a bit later first so they weren't exhausted.

How is your mood generally? You say your DH would send you to an asylum, are you furious or miserable every morning? If you're just frustrated with the situation, fair enough (though like others say, 10 hours is great at this age), but if it's more than that do also consider if you might be a bit down. Anger is a big symptom of PND in some women.

my oh said we should let him sleep as much as he liked in day as seems tired so woke at 5.15 napped from 7 30-10. Then slept for 20 mins in buggy 11.40-12 woke up coz put him in car then slept an hour and half 3-430 and went to bed ay 645

This could explain your problem. He’s too old now for diddy naps dotted through the day. One big one and a smaller one (40 mins) is enough.

Best thing you can do is to get him out in the morning (do you have rhyme time, stay and play any baby clubs near you to mix it up), lunch him at around 12:00, put him down, he should sleep for 90mins approx and then in the afternoon take him out to the swings or something, run your errands and then tea at 5:30 bed at 7. If he must have another nap then try and give him half an hour no later than 3:30.

Yes it will be shit hard to keep him up but as a PP said stimulus is key. Honestly, at the age he is at good sleep practises show time and again that from around 9 months one main nap in the day is enough.

Sadly, the catnapping and allowing him to “sleep when he wants” is trapping you and he in a vicious cycle of crap sleeping patterns.