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Sleep advice desperately needed please

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SnowWhite26 · 05/03/2019 20:43

Hi.
My 6 month old goes to bed at 6.30-7 and has a dream feed about 10.30. then wakes and chats and chats and chats till eventually after half an he gets shouty. I go in and give him milk but he doesn't need it as i sometimes only give him 3 ozs. He then might chat a little bit more then can sleep till between 6 and 7. I no its not terrible but im exhausted as I just no how to make him sleep better. Should I give up dream feed? Any advice please. I have a 3 year old and knackered!They are in same room and she doesn't seem disturbed atm!

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 04:13

Anyone?

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lrwe · 06/03/2019 04:16

Every time I tried a dream feed this happened so I gave up and just waited to see what would happen instead.

Smotheroffive · 06/03/2019 04:20

What's a dream feed?

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 04:22

Currently awake after a feed and chatting away!!!!! Ahhhhhh. Not time to wake up xx

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 04:26

When you feed when they are asleep before you go to bed. We did try and drop it but gave up after 2 night as was up twice.He still chatted. Its almost like he just properly wakes up. At least he went till 4 today but now its like hes just awake grrrr like every night. I can't put him to bed later as hes ready for bed by 7. Do frustrating x

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Smotheroffive · 06/03/2019 04:32

What's his evening routine, like when does he eat his dinner/what drinks

Smotheroffive · 06/03/2019 04:36

I can't say I've ever done that, wouldn't have dreamt of disturbing sleeping baby!

What time do you dream feed as it doesn't sound related if he's not waking up till 4.

Can't you get him feeding soon as he starts chatting and get him off to sleep again? Seeing as you are laying there awake anyway until he starts shouting!

senttomefromheaven · 06/03/2019 04:42

My girl is 6 months and I stopped the dream feed and she slept right through. It's her needing the dummy now that cracks me up.

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 04:48

So he has a 5-6oz bottle about 4.30-5 depending as sometimes he doesn't want it all then tea between 5 and 5.30 then bath and stories and bed witg 6oz bottle at 6.30-7. he then has dream feed at 10.30. He sometimes woke up for this but in last few weeks stopped. He then goes till 2 or 3 or 4ish before waking up. I go straight in and feed normally but he normally only takes about 3oz as doesn't really want it. I was leaving him a bit to see if he would settle again ths last few nights.Tonight i went straight in he took 3oz and chated for 45 mins is just stopping now.He can settle himself he has a muzzy he chews and sticks over his face. He has never drunk more than 5-6oz coz i feel he should be on more but wont have it but so far lives solids.

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 04:50

Oh i feel you. My older one had a dummy and before she could find it i would be going mad putting it bk in as she spat it out. At least he eventually settles without that i guess. X

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 04:52

Hes in a sleepyhead as he seems cozy.He rolls around and partys even more without it !

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blackcat86 · 06/03/2019 04:59

My daughter is 6 months and sleeps through from 6-6, however I've worked really hard improve our sleep. I used the little ones sleep programme to get her feed and nap times right and also to teach her to self settle without CIO which I personally would never use. Is he on 3 meals a day? DD has 3 meals plus 4 bottles and a beaker of water offered at each meal. As long as she has at least half a pouch at dinner then the guidance is that they don't need a night a feed. It sounds like your baby cant self settles so if they wake up they need you to get back to sleep.

senttomefromheaven · 06/03/2019 05:00

He sounds hungry compared to my girl. I stopped giving milk before her 5pm meal and only give her water then she takes a 7oz at half 6 and that's her till 6am.
Have you tried giving him water during the night as was advised to do the same when my girl kept wakening as apparently they realise it's not worth wakening up for.

Smotheroffive · 06/03/2019 05:00

I wouldn't think there's any more you can do. I wouldn't give up the feeds during the night at six months personally, but if hes a very good weight and you speak with HV they might suggest giving a water drinknat night. Personally, I'd just go in and BF (helluva lot easier than bottle pallava in the night). I wouldn't do the dream feed but go to sleep yourself instead and wait till he waits, then BF but you'll find your way, he's settling.himself, and he doesn't wake DD. He sounds fine. I think they go through 'noisier' phases! When they chatter a lot more.

You could try playing something for him to listen to during and after a feed, he might not bother to be chatty then, but listen instead.

Smotheroffive · 06/03/2019 05:04

What's cio?

Rtmhwales · 06/03/2019 05:31

@Smotheroffive CIO is Crying It Out.

Rtmhwales · 06/03/2019 05:32

Mine wakes up like clockwork at 2:40am and chats for nearly an hour before falling back to sleep. I don't go to him. He's starting to drop this finally and go back to sleep after a few minutes thankfully. But he's in a cot.

HappyAndYouKnowItGlugTheWine · 06/03/2019 05:41

We dreamfeed DS until he was about 7 months. He didn't even drink 3oz so we dropped it and he slept soundly. I think by 6mo they should be getting more nurishment during the day and not require top ups like dreamfeeds so much

Nowthenforever2019 · 06/03/2019 06:12

We were similar at 6 months but I weaned from night feeds, stopped dream feeding and took dd out the sleepy head. Her being able to roll over helped her self settle.

We also didn't feed before dinner, so it was bottles at 7am, 11am, 3.30pm and 6.30pm and food at 8am, 12pm and 5pm. Naps were 9am for an hour and 1pm for 2 hours.

I also stopped going in unless she was crying for more than 1 min. Often she'd cry for 30 to 40 seconds before falling asleep herself

Mummaaon · 06/03/2019 06:27

I'm presuming he is on solids too?

bluepixie · 06/03/2019 06:33

Do u feed him him to sleep bed time? Or put down awake?

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 09:39

Hi everyone thank you so much for ur messages and advice. Cream123-We always put him down awake unless he happens to have fallen asleep on bottle. At night feed he never falls asleep on bottle and self settles after all the chatting. I have tried leaving him but he eventually gets a bit cross coz i think he knows i will come in.He has a ewan. Maybe i should try going in and giving him water if he chats and doesn't seem to be stopping and reset Ewan.
Nowthenforever- Did you stop all at once. Take out of sleepyhead and stop all night feeds?i was going to buy big one as he loves it but then he likes rolling around in day so maybe that would help him at night or keep him awake longer rolling around lol.Did u just put them in cot or put towels under cover? How long did they take to get used to no sleepyhead?Hever really bothered about the 5 o clock bottle. Food wise he has a bigger appetite for food than milk. What cam i give him to keep him full at this age? I thought it wasnt really suppose to until 1? I also think he goes linger amd more settled when he doesnt sleep touch in the day which was opposite off my first one who was all about sleep breeds sleep. Nice to no others have these issues and have resolved them lol. Xxx

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Nowthenforever2019 · 06/03/2019 10:44

I stopped night feeds first then sleepyhead, I think it encouraged her to eat more during the day and we never left her crying or hungry for ages, it did just seem to be the right time for us all. When she was just waking and not needing feeding to go back to sleep, we got rid of the sleepyhead. I was also contemplating buying the bigger one but I just couldn't justify the cash. I removed for the nap she went down easiest for - the morning one - then did all naps then lastly overnight. It was much easier than I thought. The cot seemed sooo big at first bit like everything, you and they get used to it really quickly. I thought about adding towels if we needed but as it turned out, she was fine just making the switch. Now I'm thinking about it, it may have been nearer 7 months by the time we stopped night feeds and sleepyhead.

Once that was all done, I then stopped BFing and did formula full time in prep for going back to work when she was 8.5 months.

Then the 8 month sleep regression hit for 2 weeks but we persevered and now she's sleeping through. I wouldn't have perservered, my husband kept me sane tbh, I'm a soft touch but it was the best thing for her overall.

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 11:42

So maybe drop dream feed then feed when wake or keep dream feed and try and wean off night feed?Then maybe sleepyhead. My older one liked roling onto tummy and sleeping like that. My friend is good to sell me her sleepyhead if needed. He def prefers food to milk so i guess ill try filling him up more. I just dont think its hunger making him x

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SnowWhite26 · 06/03/2019 11:55

Blackcat- regarding how you did it. How much milk in each feed does ur baby have? Also he can self settle as he chats for a while after bottle then sucks his muzzy he also mainly goes down awake. Xx

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