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I’m at my wits end

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fruityb · 01/02/2019 20:49

I’ve posted before and received some good advice and I’m probably only posting this to get it out of my system but...

My son is nearly two and a half. He slept 12 hours a night till he hit two from being about six months old - and before that he was sleeping all night from 8 weeks. Therefore this is all a bit difficult for me.

He’s in a bed and we were at a stage where he’d get into bed, say night night and then that would be it till he came in to us in the morning. About two months ago he stopped going to bed at night without kicking up an almighty fuss. It then hit a point where one of us would sit there till he fell asleep. I put it down to bad dreams or regression and thought it would just pass. It hasn’t.

Over Christmas he started coming into our bed in the night anywhere between two and four. Then it was one. Then midnight. Then the other night 11pm. Which I drew the line at.

We saw HV the other day for his two year check and she suggested a stair gate on his door and disappearing chair method. However I have tried the disappearing thing and all he did was climb out of bed and try and drag me back, kick off massively and then I’d end up back in his room or dh would. I couldn’t handle ds screaming in my ear - and he does.

Tonight we decided controlled crying - so five then ten then fifteen etc. We put him to bed at just after seven, he had his story, I said night night and tucked him in and left.

He’s still awake now and has somehow managed to stand at the gate screaming for an hour “lay down mummy”. It hasn’t let up at all - I wouldn’t have the energy for that so no idea where he gets it. Dh is up there now because it’s just ridiculous how long he has managed to keep this up.

I’ve gone from sitting in the dark in his room for an hour hearing lay down mummy over and over again to hearing him scream it downstairs. He stops the instant you set foot on the stairs and gets into bed fine. Leave and it all starts again. And all I can think is what time is he going to wake in the night shouting of me. He woke up at four am and happily got back into bed when I gave him a dummy as he’d knocked all his on the floor. I just don’t know what to do about this awful awful problem at bedtime. I end up sitting in his room - usually at least 45 minutes if not more - and then desperately trying to creep out without hearing “lay down mummy” again. I don’t lay on his bed or even lean on it!! I am literally sitting on the floor in the pitch black - I doubt he can even see me.

He only naps if he needs to on weekends and CM has shortened it a lot as she has a new baby starting and therefore won’t have a space for him to nap when there’s three kids there two days a week.

He’s finally gone to sleep now - dh sat in there for five minutes....

I don’t know what to do or how to handle this or anything!! Do I just have to ride this out till he decides he can do it himself? I don’t actually mind sitting in his room while he sleeps - I stick a podcast on and wait - but it’s the fact I can be in there an hour and then struggle to get out without him waking! This is honestly the hardest thing I have gone through since he was born - newborn ds slept better than this!! I know we haven’t helped by allowing him to stay in our bed when he came in but sometimes it was either that or no sleep and going to work zombified. I hate hearing him cry but I feel like I’m being controlled at times which I know is mad!

Is it a case of solve the staying in own bed in the night and then tackling bedtime? It’s felt good just to get this down if I’m honest.

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Handsoffmysweets · 27/02/2019 20:51

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RandomMess · 27/02/2019 20:53

Can you set up somewhere to work upstairs?

You sit there working, DH brings him to stay night to you and puts him into bed. DS can get out of bed to come and see you and know you are there - hopefully give him the reassurance but will be bored into going bed?

If you could work just outside his door that would be easiest. Sort of gradual withdrawal but without withdrawing...

Iknowacrackingowlsanctuary · 27/02/2019 21:03

We had this problem with DS1. Up and down the stairs all night, not being able to leave the room etc. After weeks of this shit we decided to just put him straight in our bed to see what happened. Guess what? He now goes to sleep at 7 and we don’t hear a peep until 7 the next morning.
Yes we have a toddler in our bed but he’s sleeping, we’re getting some sleep and we’re able to enjoy our evenings.
It’s just something he obviously needs right now and we’ll address it again in a few weeks when we’re all more refreshed and DS1 is maybe feeling a bit more secure.

Might not work for everyone though!

Kittykat93 · 27/02/2019 21:05

Honestly op in your position I'd put him in your bed and see what happens. You need sleep or you'll crack. My boy hates co sleeping unless he's poorly but I know a lot of children feel safe and secure doing it.

RandomMess · 27/02/2019 21:09

Another one is put his mattress on your bedroom floor so you're less squashed.

fruityb · 27/02/2019 21:09

He was sleeping in our bed when he came in in the night but it was keeping us up! I love having him there for cuddles I really do but he wouldn’t sleep in the middle which meant I had to or he would want my side entirely!

I just went and laid on the floor in his room - didn’t even speak to him - and he was asleep in a minute 🤦🏻‍♀️

God this is harder than hard!! Thank you for reading my rantings - i need an outlet! I just don’t feel like I get any time or any let up. Plus I worry about him staying anywhere else if he’s like this (though sure he saves this for us!)

I just don’t feel it’s feasible to lay on the floor every night! We have done it quite a lot but it never got any quicker - it was at least an hour.

I’m not having another one lol

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AllGone · 27/02/2019 21:11

I feel your pain. I am lying with DS2 (3) while he falls asleep and DH has been in with DS1 (5). They are so persistent with the crying and screaming if we try to get them into a routine to self settle.

We got a sleep consultant in who effectively gave us a controlled crying routine for DS2. However, he just screamed until he was sick and it didn't improve and we just could not face putting him through that anymore.

So here we are 18 months later still staying with them. If they wake in the night I end up taking them back to their beds to settle them and most often I end up falling asleep in one of their bedrooms.

It is so draining and frustrating but luckily most often they fall asleep in about 20minutes so we have just carried on with it. I keep telling myself we won't be doing it when they are older but not quite sure how or when we will change it!

crazycatlady5 · 27/02/2019 21:14

I just went and laid on the floor in his room - didn’t even speak to him - and he was asleep in a minute 🤦🏻‍♀️ God this is harder than hard!!

Why is that hard though? I don’t understand. He really needs his parents and it’s clear if he falls asleep that quickly. You are giving him comfort and he fell asleep quickly?

fruityb · 27/02/2019 21:27

Because a lot of the time he says mummy every two minutes or he starts messing about.

Sigh I’m back on that floor in the dark aren’t i.... I’m going to start taking work up and sitting inside my bedroom door with it - which is just next to his.

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fryersdelight · 27/02/2019 21:30

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I can recommend this consultant btw. Have used her in the past successfully and using her again just now. She is the bees knees

perfectpanda · 27/02/2019 21:33

I understand why you don't want to lie on the floor waiting for him to sleep every night.. for me, my evenings are so important and I've never been one to lie and wait for hours for them to go to sleep. My dc2 didn't ever believe in 7pm bedtimes and i feel your pain. It used to drive me absolutely mad. It got much better when she could look at books and play in her room after i said good night. And now I have dc3 who is approaching this nightmare phase.... I can't suggest much as none of my strategies ever worked. I just learnt to expect it to be crap and tried to cope with my crippling irritation! Btw my older dc are fabulous sleepers now, and it all a horrible distant memory... until dc3 starts!

fruityb · 01/03/2019 19:32

Tonight I witnessed something ridiculous. He actually stood there making fake crying noises at me. Properly fake crying. He’s now also out of his bed before I can even leave the room and refuses to get in it unless I physically put him in - which I won’t do as he just gets right back out. He’s bloody strong for a two and a half year old!!

He’s now wailing at the stair gate while I scrape my nails down my face. Five fucking months this has been going on and I couldn’t be any more consistent at night time. He just point blank refuses to change what he’s doing!!!

He has a sleepover tomorrow night where I am pretty certain he’ll be a complete delight and everyone will wonder what on Earth I’m talking about. He can keep this up for two hours - I know because he’s done this many times.

I was going to sit in tonight but he wouldn’t even get in bed so I wasn’t. When I sat the other side of his stair gate a few weeks back he actually crept out of his bed and dropped a book on my head!!

Just you wait till you’re a teenager ds. Just you bloody wait....

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crazycatlady5 · 02/03/2019 18:36

Your poor kid has clearly got quite severe separation anxiety at the moment and sounds like is also going through a sleep regression. I understand it’s hard for you but I bet it’s a damn sight harder for him. Why can’t you just stay with him and comfort him while this is happening rather than constantly walking out of the room? It won’t be going on in a few years time.

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