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I’m at my wits end

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fruityb · 01/02/2019 20:49

I’ve posted before and received some good advice and I’m probably only posting this to get it out of my system but...

My son is nearly two and a half. He slept 12 hours a night till he hit two from being about six months old - and before that he was sleeping all night from 8 weeks. Therefore this is all a bit difficult for me.

He’s in a bed and we were at a stage where he’d get into bed, say night night and then that would be it till he came in to us in the morning. About two months ago he stopped going to bed at night without kicking up an almighty fuss. It then hit a point where one of us would sit there till he fell asleep. I put it down to bad dreams or regression and thought it would just pass. It hasn’t.

Over Christmas he started coming into our bed in the night anywhere between two and four. Then it was one. Then midnight. Then the other night 11pm. Which I drew the line at.

We saw HV the other day for his two year check and she suggested a stair gate on his door and disappearing chair method. However I have tried the disappearing thing and all he did was climb out of bed and try and drag me back, kick off massively and then I’d end up back in his room or dh would. I couldn’t handle ds screaming in my ear - and he does.

Tonight we decided controlled crying - so five then ten then fifteen etc. We put him to bed at just after seven, he had his story, I said night night and tucked him in and left.

He’s still awake now and has somehow managed to stand at the gate screaming for an hour “lay down mummy”. It hasn’t let up at all - I wouldn’t have the energy for that so no idea where he gets it. Dh is up there now because it’s just ridiculous how long he has managed to keep this up.

I’ve gone from sitting in the dark in his room for an hour hearing lay down mummy over and over again to hearing him scream it downstairs. He stops the instant you set foot on the stairs and gets into bed fine. Leave and it all starts again. And all I can think is what time is he going to wake in the night shouting of me. He woke up at four am and happily got back into bed when I gave him a dummy as he’d knocked all his on the floor. I just don’t know what to do about this awful awful problem at bedtime. I end up sitting in his room - usually at least 45 minutes if not more - and then desperately trying to creep out without hearing “lay down mummy” again. I don’t lay on his bed or even lean on it!! I am literally sitting on the floor in the pitch black - I doubt he can even see me.

He only naps if he needs to on weekends and CM has shortened it a lot as she has a new baby starting and therefore won’t have a space for him to nap when there’s three kids there two days a week.

He’s finally gone to sleep now - dh sat in there for five minutes....

I don’t know what to do or how to handle this or anything!! Do I just have to ride this out till he decides he can do it himself? I don’t actually mind sitting in his room while he sleeps - I stick a podcast on and wait - but it’s the fact I can be in there an hour and then struggle to get out without him waking! This is honestly the hardest thing I have gone through since he was born - newborn ds slept better than this!! I know we haven’t helped by allowing him to stay in our bed when he came in but sometimes it was either that or no sleep and going to work zombified. I hate hearing him cry but I feel like I’m being controlled at times which I know is mad!

Is it a case of solve the staying in own bed in the night and then tackling bedtime? It’s felt good just to get this down if I’m honest.

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fruityb · 07/02/2019 02:44

The less said about the fact he woke up at ten, one, two and now the better....

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fruityb · 07/02/2019 11:30

I am seeing last night as a positive. He didn’t cry or shout in the night - he just kept saying mummy or daddy. As soon as we appeared at the gate he got back into bed and went to sleep. I didn’t have to climb over or put him in. He just got in and laid down. So as much as we were distrurbed a few times it wasn’t for long. I took him into our room at half five and he slept a bit more while I got ready for work at six.

He’s a bit poorly at the moment - sore throat and chesty - so am putting it down to that.

I feel we are making progress! Husband was knackered this morning but I felt ok as I didn’t get stressed.

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NeverHadANickname · 07/02/2019 13:04

That definitely sounds like a step forward! So glad things are slowly improving for you.

scottiesheep · 07/02/2019 19:44

Keep going OP, could be a combination of feeling poorly and a bit of separation anxiety. Sometimes these things just happen out the blue for no reason we can fully identify. It too shall pass x

molamoob · 07/02/2019 20:14

I second pp's suggestion to drop nap time completely. Difficult at first but very worth it.

fruityb · 07/02/2019 20:40

CM is helping with dropping the nap - mainly because three days a week she’s going to have two others that are younger than ds and she doesn’t have the space for another cot! I said a bean bag and a movie would do it.

He’s gone to sleep fine tonight - I was sitting in his room again but he didn’t ask me to lay down or anything. Calm and quiet as you like. Finger crossed it continues!

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molamoob · 09/02/2019 08:47

How've the last2 nights gone OP?

fruityb · 09/02/2019 09:07

Thursday night was fine, last night he went to bed about half seven and went to sleep at about half nine 🤦🏻‍♀️ I was up there for an hour - the landing side of his gate so that’s progress - but he just wouldn’t sleep. Dh came and took over as he said it was getting silly and as ds then started whacking dh with his ted he left him to it. Cue half an hour of yelling and then he finally went to sleep.

Up at 7 this morning of course... he’s in a good mood and happy but last night he was just taking the piss. He wasn’t getting out of bed or anything he just kept saying “mummy” every five minutes. All he got was shush off me but he just kept me there.

Onwards to tonight....

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fruityb · 09/02/2019 21:06

So he had an hour nap this afternoon - my sister and niece were here and he snoozed in his pushchair when we went into town. He’s been in a very happy and fun mood all day but by half seven was practically falling asleep in my arms. Husband took him to bed and left him and we’ve not heard a peep!!

His gro clock is on tonight so that may be helping? We’ll see. Typical he goes to bed without a peep the night we have company lol. I’m sure they save it up!

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fruityb · 11/02/2019 04:53

Quarter to bastard four..... an hour of trying to get him to sleep with ten secondly mummys just to check in still there.

Dh is now up with him - I’m wide a fucking wake and have a full day of teaching. Happy bastard Monday!!!!!!

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fruityb · 11/02/2019 06:37

I am using this thread as an outlet. Quick disclaimer there lol

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crazycatlady5 · 11/02/2019 07:55

What happens if you let him in your bed or just lie with him till he falls asleep? It sounds like he has terrible separation anxiety and just needs 1 of you to be with him to go to sleep. It’s really not unusual, but sounds like you’re making it way harder on yourselves by standing by the door.

fruityb · 11/02/2019 11:00

He came in to me at just after five and fell straight to sleep and I woke him at seven!!

He does sleep with us when he comes in but it’s the fact he was coming in at 11pm that was not on! Plus getting out of his room when he falls asleep is hard. I was going to take him in the spare room but dh took him downstairs.

I just don’t want to create problems further down the line which I know is mad but I always worry about these things!!

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Mummamullett · 12/02/2019 07:00

Ive just read this post from start to finish. This is exactly me. My little boy is such a lovely caring funny wee guy that is an absolute pleasure through the day but we're having really terrible nights woth him. Having to lie on the floor till he falls asleep and then he's waking up between 3 and 5 and not going back to sleep. Sunday mornong i put him in his buggy at 430 am and walked the streets to try and get him back to sleep. We were out for 20 minutes... he didnt sleep. I put him in the car and went a drive... he didnt sleep. Last night he woke at 1245. I brought him in to our bed and he slept till 6am. Its not something i want to allow but.. like you... i will do anytging for a sleep right now. Weve had a similar problem before and we got this shhhleepies foot oil from mummy loves organic and he would fall asleep watching in the night garden and sleep all night. We ran out a few weeks ago and back to this. I ordered more at 5am on Sunday morning. Hopefully it arrives today, i will use that till the weekend. Hes still in a cot but he grips the side and uses his cot like a trampoline screaming bloody murder and is so stubborn than leaving him to scream it out does not work... just gets worse till he just about makes him sick. He's hoarse from his screaming. Im thinking of changing his cot to the bed if the oil doesnt work this time so that he cant jump the way he does currently but your post has scared me a little. Im also getting a gro clock today but not sure if to start using that tonight or to wait till I move him to a bed. Sometimes it helps to know you're not alone Flowers

scottiesheep · 12/02/2019 14:32

After giving
You advice my 22 month old is doing similar.. can't decide if it's anxiety, reflux/teething or the move from
Cot to a double bed (too much space and not feeling secure) causing it.

If I work
It out I'll
Let you know!

BifsWif · 12/02/2019 20:31

My daughter did the exact same thing. She’s 3 and a half now and in bed next to me. She doesn’t come in every night anymore, but I gave up fighting it. She needed me in the night, and I needed sleep. Letting her in with my at whatever time she came in seemed to help, she slept better in her own room once she realised I was there if she needed me. She’s only back in with me because we’re moving house and her room is packed up.

Your well-being matters, do whatever you need to do to get some sleep. It won’t last forever I promise.

fruityb · 12/02/2019 21:08

There has been a marked improvement lately. I have managed to leave him awake three times now and he’s gone to sleep ok. I’ve taken him into our bed the last two mornings at 5am as I just need that extra hour and he always goes back to sleep. He doesn’t mind me sitting the other side of the stair gate on his room now as long as he can tell I’m there. He just checks constantly with me which he doesn’t do to Dh. But, dh has started coming to get me if he thinks I’ve been up too long!

He’s been a bit poorly but I’m hoping we’ve got on top of it now.

We’ll see! I’m glad to hear I’m not alone (though wish us all good sleep!)

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fruityb · 19/02/2019 19:20

Fuck me. Been out today and he’s walked loads. Awake on the way home - about a fifty minute drive - and been happy and playing all afternoon. We got home about three.

At 6:45 he asked to go to bed and asked for his stories. Lead me up the stairs. Had his stories. Left him and he shouted for about 30 seconds.

Not a sound now.... I’m actually lost for words and what to do lol!

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fruityb · 26/02/2019 20:09

And we’re back on the incessant “lay down lay down lay down” shouting from the stairgate. He’s been in bed an hour - he had his stories and now just won’t go to sleep.

He’s got a night light - done nothing except he can now see where to walk easier...

I can’t cope with this every night. He will go on and on till one of us goes up - the other night he managed to shake his stair gate loose and came downstairs!!!

It gets better then it just completely resets. We have changed nothing about his routine - nothing. It depends what day of the week it is. I just cannot stand listening to “lay down mummy/daddy” on a constant loop. I feel angry, upset, irritated, frustrated... it is making me stressed in an evening wondering how long it’ll take for him to go the fuck to sleep. He will literally go as long as it takes for one of us to crack. This has been over an hour before.

He can be really good some nights but this feels like the norm now and I can’t stand it. I’m totally drained and worn by this - it’s fucking awful.

But hey at least he’s been sleeping all night so every cloud.... he is the happiest kid all day long and bedtime just makes this monster that just won’t get in his bed. He’s back out of it before you’ve even shut the door!!

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fryersdelight · 27/02/2019 12:38

Sending hugs OP. Does he nap during the day? Going through similar although ours may be related to moving him out of the cot and into the bed at the beg of January. Some nights he settles fine but others not and it's like he's just too wired?? He is suffering from reflux though and we are addressing his diet..

fruityb · 27/02/2019 20:28

It is horrendous at the moment - he is doing this to be a little sod. He’s warm, he’s comfy, I read him stories. I refuse to sit on the landing so he can check I’m sitting on the landing every two minutes though. He can sleep fine without us - he always has been able to. I cannot believe that he can go for 90 minutes complaining about being in bed - it beggars belief. I couldn’t do that!!

He’s just the same tonight - went up at 7:10 - he asked - and read his stories. As soon as I leave and say night night he’s up and out and at the gate. I can leave him and he’ll just keep going. It’s utterly ridiculous.

When the actual fuck does this stop???? He is the best kid in the daytime - this behaviour is nothing like how he is then at all. Sure he has the odd kick off but nothing on this scale. It just feels totally controlling.

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crazycatlady5 · 27/02/2019 20:33

Hmm. I honestly don’t understand why one of you won’t just stay with him till he goes to sleep? There obviously what he needs at the moment and it won’t be forever. It just seems so much harder shouting over the stair gate than just lying down and cuddling for a bit.

fruityb · 27/02/2019 20:40

Because it can be ten minutes or it can be two hours. I’m a teacher so have work in the evenings - which I’m not doing which is making my days a nightmare - and my husband is the same. Plus trying to get out of the room when he finally does fall asleep can be like the fucking Krypton Factor!!!

We’ve done that and it either doesn’t work, takes ages or he just starts pissing about because one of us is in there.

He’s been upstairs an hour and a half kicking off intermittently. I’ve been on my own till twenty minutes ago and I’ve been sobbing on the sofa because it just won’t stop.

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