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firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 17:05

Was putting this off for so long ! Tonight is the night we are doing control crying ! My 6 month old has been waking up every 1 to two hours since he turned 3 months old ! I just really hope o stick through it ! Anyone done it with sucess ??? How long did the crying last forat time ?? Am dreading it put i simply cannot keep rocking to sleep anymore every hour !

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HoneyWheeler · 11/05/2018 17:08

Oh god this could literally have been written by me. It was like he turned three months old and -bing!- no more sleep.

We are reluctantly trying CC tonight, as neither of us can take it any longer!

firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 17:13

Oh @HoneyWheeler ! We can keep each other company ! Am eliminating ng fummy ise as well which is another aleep assosiation as well as the rocking !!

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gingerbreadbiscuits · 11/05/2018 17:15

6 months old is very young to sleep training. What method are you going to use?

firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 17:22

@gingerbreadbiscuits i am using the ferber method ! I read the book fully before starting and is not crying it out! The example cases used in the book is excactly my son ! Waking up every sleep cycle just to be rocked and goes straight back to sleep

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BigusBumus · 11/05/2018 17:26

I did it very successfully twice. The first time my son was 12 weeks. I bathed him at 6.30pm, fed him, put him in a Grobag and laid him in his cot and left the room. He cried for an hour and 20 mins on and off the first night. 30 mins the second night, 4 mins the 3rd night and never again, ever in his life. He is now 16 and from that 4th day onwards has always been a wonderful sleeper.

I did it again with his brother at 12 weeks. More or less the same thing happened.

This was in the days of Gina Ford. It was 2002 and everyone seemed to be following her advice, I found it a Godsend. Not cruel, not awful. My husband and I had our evening relationship back where we ate together and watched TV and chatted, which I think was really important.

I know this has fallen out of favour, but it worked very well for us all.

firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 17:36

@BigusBumus wow that sounds amazing ! Although i dont know if i can take 1 and a half hour ! I really hope i dont give uo my husband is also softer than me so i am hoping we can do it !!

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Bobbybobbins · 11/05/2018 17:43

We did it with both of ours at 6 months and really helped them to self settle. Good luck!!

firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 17:56

@Bobbybobbins thank you ! I decided to send my husband out i think if he atays here i will cave in !

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Rockandrollwithit · 11/05/2018 17:59

I feel for you, mine woke up every 30 mins for the first six months. Both DH and I were on our knees and DS was exhausted too. Our older DS was also having really poor sleep.

We used controlled crying. He now goes down at 7pm and wakes once for a bottle at around 1am before sleeping through until 6am. He also settles himself to sleep with no crying at all.

I do wonder how many of the people who judge any kind of sleep training have actually experienced a baby who wakes every 30 mins for six whole months.

HoneyWheeler · 11/05/2018 18:55

@Rockandrollwithit If you don't mind me asking, how long did it take for your LO to sleep through?

I just put DS down, woke him up after a feed, had the curtains opened and took him to the window, but he was so tired that he fell asleep as soon as I lay him down! Tried to wake him again, so he could see me leave the room...but don't know if he did. I guess the hard bit will be in a couple of hours when he usually wakes up!

firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 19:41

Well that was a failure he is now in my arms sleeping ! He cried so much he vomited and he was chocking and in shock when i picked him up ! And that was just after the first 10 minutes ! Oh well i guess i will be one of those people that sleeps with her 4 yeat old !

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firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 19:42

I guess my little one is more stuborn

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EgremontRusset · 11/05/2018 19:46

You could try other ways. We did gradual retreat aka ‘the disappearing chair’ technique, because it didn’t involve leaving him alone til he had learned more slowly.

Hugs, anyway.

firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 19:51

@EgremontRusset i will google that thought i d be stringer but i cannot take it he was crying too much ! I lasted 18 mins and feel so guilty now that he vomited !

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user1491924338 · 11/05/2018 19:52

OP, my little one was sleeping just as badly from 3-6 months and it nearly broke me. He grew out of it though from about 6.5 months and is now 8.5 months and only wakes once or twice a night. We still feed up sleep! I understand the theory of Ferber, couldn't bring self to do it, and thought I was doomed, but no...
I do wonder if for many babies it is just s developmental thing and they will get there of you can hang in a bit longer x

Spam88 · 11/05/2018 19:58

user I agree that it's developmental. I think they'll all get there in their own time without being trained. My DD at her worst would be up on average every 40 minutes, my DH works away for long periods of time as well so I was absolutely on my knees. She's almost a year now though and the last week or so she's actually slept through a couple of times Shock if it can still be classed as sleeping through when she gets up at half 5...

OP, six months is very young for controlled crying and it doesn't sound like it was right for either of you. I hope things improve for you soon though :)

firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 19:58

@user1491924338 i really hope he does grow out of it ! The truth is he sleeps better if he is in bed with me will do 3 hours streches sometimes 4 but i just cant sleep well with him in the bed with me! And i worried he willnever sleep in the cot once he gets older

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firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 20:02

@Spam88 in the begining i really thought it was going to pass but as time went by and all the other babies in my cycle were sleeping through i lost all hope ! One of the mums even told me " am surely doing aomething wrong " and i do think i did something wrong by rocking him to sleep fully when he was younger

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firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 20:19

Thank you @EgremontRusset ! I dont know if that will work with my little one but i ll give it a try!

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lulu12345 · 11/05/2018 20:29

I’m sure you’re not doing anything wrong! Every baby is different, some are better sleepers, but to be honest I think very few young babies (under 6 months anyway) magically sleep through the night themselves. Not a full 10+ hours anyway. I think most of the time the parents are either bullshitting or have sleep trained and either don’t admit to that, or don’t realise they’ve done it (baby in another room and they didn’t hear the cries etc!) I was dead against the thought of sleep training but after six months of never sleeping more than an hour or two in a row I was broken and hired a sleep trainer to provide remote (online and phone) support. It was meant to take a week and it took over a month of crying every night. Apparently this is not abnormal but it would have been quicker if I’d allowed longer periods of crying and been less attentive when I went in to settle him. It was so heartbreaking but I kept going as I was so desperate to sleep. At nearly 3 years old now he’s a brilliant sleeper. One decent piece of advice I took from the experience though is make sure you’ve got a decent daytime nap routine before you start nighttime sleep training. Really important that they’re getting the right total hours of sleep a day and having long enough wake periods or else any training will be in vain. Good luck with it!

Rockandrollwithit · 11/05/2018 20:35

I think it will happen when he is ready. We co slept all night with both of our boys until at least six months. With DS1, he was ready at about nine months to sleep through the night in his own bed and is a fab sleeper now. DS2 was ready for his own space at six months but still has a few wake ups a night now at eight months. Some nights he can be up a LOT and other nights only once. But he will get there.

Don't feel guilty about rocking etc. Neither of my babies could self settle as newborns and would scream if I tried the put down whilst drowsy techniques. I held both for almost 24 hours a day in the beginning months as that's what they needed. My nephew however could self settle from birth. I remember watching him drift off in amazement and feeling incredibly envious of my sister!

I really stressed about sleep with my first. I was so worried about bad habits etc. With my second I accepted that so much about having a baby is about getting through however you can. Don't listen to what other peoples babies are doing as they are all so different. Your baby will get there in his own time.

lulu12345 · 11/05/2018 20:37

Also you say you’re eliminating the dummy too.. Your call but personally I think this is such a useful tool to help a baby sleep that I would keep it. You can still sleep train with a dummy if you want. You might need to help reinsert it a few times a night but by the time they’re about 8/9 months (can’t rmemebr exactly) they’ll be able to reinsert themselves and that will provide them comfort and help them self settle. I used to put my son to bed with about 10 dummies scattered round the cot. It also helped me to know that when he was at Nursery he’d be able to have decent naps and take comfort from his dummy. I know everyone has different views on them but there’s no denying they work (if the baby will take one - my baby girl won’t!)

LuckyTwiglet · 11/05/2018 20:45

100% second what Rockandrollwithit said.

firsttimemum889 · 11/05/2018 20:46

@Rockandrollwithit i know you are right i cant atop stressing about creating bad habits . Like for instance co sleeping helps us sleep better but am so frightened it will mea. I never gwt my bed back !
@lulu12345 i dont mind the dummy it really helps him settle . i was just going by the book and it said of they cannot put it back themselves and need your help to re insert it then its a bad sleep assosiation and it should be eliminated .

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