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Sleepyhead in a moses? Doable? Or on the floor? Or in babybox?

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Jellybabie3 · 23/10/2017 17:27

Ive just ordered one out of desperation for my unputdownable 2 week old. I cant afford/justify a bedside crib aswell. Does it go on the floor at night? Will it fit in moses? Or i have a baby box. I know its safe in a moses but wondering if anyone found one it fits? Ours was a gift from grandma so dont want to bin.

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FannyTheFlamingo · 23/10/2017 19:22

I bought a Moses basket and DD spent 2 nights in it and I gave it away. She settled so much better in the sleepyhead (which wouldn't fit in a Moses basket). I moved the cot into our room and put the sleepyhead in there. She used to wake every 2 hours (well, she still does at 11 months), so I put the sleepyhead in the middle of our bed so I could soothe her easily. I don't see a problem putting it on the floor though. Good luck OP Flowers

FoxesSitOnBoxes · 23/10/2017 19:26

Flowers my fist was like this. I was surviving on 2 hours sleep in 24 in the early days. We bought everything and I have no idea if any of it worked but it gets better. You will get such conflicting advice and we just tried the bits we felt comfortable with. Ignore any advice that makes out this is in any way something that you could have prevented or makes you feel like you’ve done something wrong. It is so so so exhausting but gets better.

FATEdestiny · 23/10/2017 19:38

Jellybabie3. For tonight, before the sleepyhead arrived, have you got a flat sheet?

  • a cot sheet?
  • a giant muslin?
  • a thin towel?
  • an old sheet from your bed you could cut up?

You want a rectangle of thin material that's about 1m-1.5m along one side. The length of the other side doesn't matter so much. The attached instructions use a triangle material, but I did the same with a long, thin rectangle.

At 2 weeks old babies are universally calmed by womb-like conditions and that is what the swaddle recreates. If baby seems to fight against it, it's more of a sign baby needs the swaddled in order to calm down.

The sleepyhead taps into exactly the same natural preferences in baby.

Have you tried a dummy?

Sleepyhead in a moses? Doable? Or on the floor? Or in babybox?
peaceloveandbiscuits · 23/10/2017 19:40

Listen to fate

Protectingmydaughterfromfilth · 23/10/2017 19:43

They’ve been declared dangerous and are soon to be banned. Applies to all sleep positioners. Or will do...

Protectingmydaughterfromfilth · 23/10/2017 19:45

Chocolate That is absolutely false!

Jellybabie3 · 23/10/2017 19:50

Tried swaddling blankets. No to dummy

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tumtitum · 23/10/2017 19:50

DD slept in our sleepyhead in our bed between our pillows (our pillows by her feet) for her first five months

crazycatlady5 · 23/10/2017 19:56

In that article it says sleepyheads remain on sale 🙄

I don’t think anyone wants to be unkind to you Op. I remember SO well thinking ‘I know people said having a baby is hard but I didn’t realise it would be this hard!’ Your body has gone through a massive trauma and you don’t have the time to rest after. You have to take home a tiny human that wants all of you when you feel you have nothing to give.

It is really, very very hard and it’s ok to feel like you’re struggling at the mo. It WILL get better, hang in there Flowers

itsalljibberish · 23/10/2017 19:56

We started off with a sleepyhead in a crib and then when he got bigger we put the sleepyhead in a travel cot in our room. You'll deffo need a travel cot at some point in the future so it's not a wasted buy!

IMissGin · 23/10/2017 19:56

I had it in a next to me- could you sell Moses and put £ towards second hand next to me? I sold mine on for £80.

IMissGin · 23/10/2017 19:57

I also swaddled and have a dummy from week 1/2

FATEdestiny · 23/10/2017 20:04

Blankets are too thick/warm for swaddling. You need a thin, light, sheet. Taking scissors to an old duvet cover would work.

When you said you tried, are you still trying? None of these things are magic wands that will magically just work, just like that.

Have we talked about feeding to sleep? The most usual way for a newborn to fall asleep. Feed until unlatching, baby into swaddle, into your shoulder to wind until a burp (or two). If settled, put down (see below) if not, back into breast until settled.

To put baby down, you first need baby swaddled in order to control the startle reflex. Then be uber gentle, slow and ninja style. Baby on your shoulder winding, you bend at the waist until you are horizontal over the surface baby will be put down on. At no point in doing this does baby move from position on your shoulder. Be slow and patient in your movements.

Get until baby is just a few cm off the mattress, but still having not moved from your shoulder. Lower the last couple of cm away from your body and down. Stay right there, just a few cm above baby's whole body. Don't move, wait.

Please your hand on baby's chest to recreate the weight of being next to you. Keep your face close to babies. It's now that a dummy is useful. Dummy in for comfort sucking (send your DH to the 24h supermarket to get some), hand on baby's chest, stay physically close, breath in baby's ear, wait all still and calm and quiet.

It's much, much harder to do without crying unless you use a dummy.

user1471441738 · 23/10/2017 20:05

Sleep positioners are a sids risk, particularly inside a cot.

Other similar designs have been banned after babies have died.

crazycatlady5 · 23/10/2017 20:32

Please stop scaremongering. Sleepyheads have been safetytested and have NOT been taken off the market - it is also not considered a sleep positioner.

peaceloveandbiscuits · 23/10/2017 20:33

Sleepyheads are not sleep positioners.

SprinkleOfInsanity · 23/10/2017 20:35

The sleepyhead is not a sleep positioner Hmm

The safest way to sleep with a sleepyhead, if you don't have a bedside crib, is on top of your duvet in your bed, ideally between you and your partner. The sides are high enough that you would feel it so you wouldn't roll on top of it.

Whatever you do, don't place the baby in the sleepyhead in a box directly at the side of your bed, it would be dangerous if a pillow/cushion/anything large enough to smother baby if it fell off your bed in to the box.

The sleepyhead was a miracle worker for our 'needing constant contact' baby.

SuzanneSays · 23/10/2017 20:41

Reposting from another thread about the sleepyhead
www.babybargains.com/dockatot-review-not-recommended/

FATEdestiny · 23/10/2017 20:50

This is not the place for a discussion on sleepyhead safety.

This is an already anxious (going by all her recent threads...) first time mother who is sleep deprived and struggling to cope with hernewborn's sleep.

Take the debate on sleepyhead elsewhere and educate yourselves. There have been no changes with regards to the safety advice on the sleepyhead in the uk.

There has been some Ben are in the US. The UK policy advisors on SIDS do not deem sleep positioners as unsafe. I am happy to debate further on this thread, or any of the others on the subject.

This IS NOT the place for a sleepyhead safety debate. OP, please don't worry.

crazycatlady5 · 23/10/2017 20:52

When questioned regarding the sleepyhead, the lullaby trust confirmed that although they don’t actively recommend them, there is also no evidence they are unsafe.

crazycatlady5 · 23/10/2017 20:53

Crossed post FATE - yep to everything you said.

user1471462428 · 23/10/2017 21:02

Try dummy and play white noise and or womb noises. My mother always says newborns are so cute so they can with this shit and you’ll still love them!!

ElfEars · 23/10/2017 21:04

Sorry OP I've not tried a Sleepy head so have no advice on that but just wanted to ask if you've tried white noise. Really helped my DS settle when he was tiny (and still does).

peaceloveandbiscuits · 23/10/2017 21:10

Being cute is definitely a survival mechanism user! They'd go out the window otherwise, the shit they pull! Grin

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