Solidarity thread for the non sleeping babies!

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Hello! A new thread for babies who don't bloody sleep and aren't sleep trained in any way to chat/cry to each other in desperation!

Just read from a very respectable source the daily fail that over tiredness causes your brain to eat itself! We're all fucked

My DD is 6 months and currently only believes in sleep if it's in my bed. And so close to me that when I breathe it rocks her back to sleep

Oh no mama do you need to talk about it?

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Thank you!

My partner and I are going through a bad patch right now. He is overworked and stressed from a job putting too much on him. I am thoroughly sleep deprived, currently unwell with 2 unwell children, and slowly suffocating under the responsibility of running a house when there isn't any money. Sounds dramatic but that's how it feels.

I'm shit and adulting :(

50 million wake-ups last night and one seriously tired and fed up mama this morning 😩 I may as well have stayed up and watched telly all night. Humph.

Mama that sounds so tough sending healing hugs xx

I'm going through a stage of wanting to strangle DH. He had the kids for a few hours yesterday (for the first time ever!) so I could do some decorating in a project we're (meant to be) doing together. Honestly, someone give that man a medal for his bravery and stamina! YOU WANNA TRY DOING IT ALL DAY EVERY DAY, THEN COOKING THE DINNER, THEN NOT SLEEPING ALL NIGHT!!! Oh, and he didn't give DS any solid food at all, hence the 50million wake ups for milk 😡😤

PS. And noooow he's sleeping. Argghhhhhhhhhhh!!!! I can't win.

tea you poor thing! They really have no idea do they? Left DS with DH yesterday while I went to wash my hair and half way through he came in to ask why he was crying. Seriously! It's half hour just give him attention and he will be fine! Will you be able to get a nap in at some point today. I feel for you

mama hope things get better soon for you

Last night was the best night in about 8 weeks. He went down at 7:30, didn't wake till 2:30 and I had no trouble putting him. Sick to brd. He then slept till 6;30! I thought we were going to have a terrible night as he skipped his 4pm nap so went 4 hours without sleep but it did tnt seem to matter.

Thanks guys. It sounds awful but it makes me feel better to know other people are having a shit/shitter time too! Misery really does love company.

Oh mama I hope things get better for you soon it doesn't sound dramatic at all, I think anyone would be really struggling with all that!

Muncher that's the worst isn't it when you feel like you've wasted a whole night trying to sleep and could have just caught up on tv (and probably felt better than having had tried to sleep!). I can't believe that was the first time he'd had the kids I just don't think men understand it do they! DD's piece of shit father asked at 4 months old if I was back in the gym yet. don't know how I was supposed to do that as a single parent of a baby who breastfeeds at least hourly but he didn't see why it was such a ridiculous question! Hope your DS at least has a good sleep now I find it's so much easier to cope on no sleep if the baby is at least well rested!

Youvegot that's amazing! Yay there's hope! Fingers crossed tonight is good too

Sorry to hear of everyone having a bad time with the babies sleep and life stresses in general. @Mama - adulting is so tough, I often wistfully think of my single and free days.

We had a terrible night last night as DD had a blocked nose which kept waking her up. Luckily managed to get a little sleep in this morning. I used to have a good sleeper - I just don't know how to get back there!! Feels really hard.

speedy I know what you mean. I used to have a brilliant sleeper too. We have had around 8 weeks of terrible sleep and the last 3 nights have been much better. I am not going to say it as I don't want to jinx it!

I hope every starts to come out the other side too. No one really knows how awful sleep deprivation really is. I can't even remember words to form a full sentence most days!

Oh hello my fellow sufferers!! Can I join??
My 10 month old has ALWAYS been a rubbish sleeper, and I cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel! He's fed to sleep, which seems to be less effective the last few nights! Used to go down usually between 7-8, but now it can take up to 10pm & he wakes at least 3 times during the night!
He had been sleeping in a next2me which was ideal as I could just roll over & feed him but then he just kept growing (funny how babies do that!) & started pulling himself up so it was not safe for him to be in it. I then started putting him in the travel cot next to my side of the bed just a couple of weeks ago, tried to get him to sleep without being on the boob! The 1st 3 nights were fine, we managed it & I thought we were getting somewhere! Then he wouldn't settle at all, then we went away for the weekend with family & he was awake until 9/10/11pm because he could hear everyone else talking in the living room (the lodge had paper thin walls!) & since then he's been a nightmare!
I try feeding him on & off for over 2 hours, & last night he ended up in the car with my DH driving at 1am. He's not well at the moment (cold/cough, runny nose, not eating properly) which isn't helping either!
Sorry for the essay! I think people in RL are sick of hearing about my non sleeper though

Welcome Disney

That sounds horrific! We've got a big family holiday on the 10th and I'm really dreading getting a 3 year old and 6 month old to sleep in a house with 15 other people :( your story fills me with dread :P

Hey Disney
Anyone brace enough to do a family holiday with small kids deserves a medal in my eyes! I can barely brave a 40 minute drive

We had an averagely bad night, refused point blank to go in the cot again but when put down in my bed she opened her eyes, saw where she was, smiled then shut her eyes and went to bloody sleep she has just screamed for an hour and a half, including her entire swimming lesson so I'm ready to give up and go back to bed or get on the

@MamaHanji how you doing today? May I recommend teaching LO to kick DH in the balls? Works well in our house?

@furryelephant swimming lessons with screaming babe is the PITS! Ugh you get my share of the 🍷 tonight!

@DisneyIsMyDrug I think all my family and friends are sick of me saying I'm tired. My childless (by choice!) best friends says she knows how it feels as she didn't get to sleep til 1am then had to get up for work and I'm all I GOT UP 5 FUCKING TIMES AND I STILL HAVE TO GO TO BLOODY WORK AND KEEP A SMALL PERSON ALIVE!! But I usually keep that to myself as I realise it makes me sound like a cunt badger.

@Youvegotafriendinme shhhh! Don't say it THEY HEAR EVERYTHING!!!

@Speedybloomer have you tried the calpol easy breathe plug ins. They're great for snotty dotties!

DD slept 10pm-4am!?!?!?!!? I actually woke with back pain as I haven't slept that long since Valentine's Day! Tonight I'm sure she'll revert back to her old ways

@YouCant 10-4 sounds great. Hope it continues for you! Thanks for the recommendation, il pick it up tomorrow if the snotty nose persists. Hahaha totally feel you when childless folk tell you they're tired, of course it's not a competition but I can genuinely say I've never experienced sleep deprivation like this pre-baby! I hate the feeling of going to bed and not knowing how many times you'll be disturbed. Ah these babies!! Good thing they're so cute!

Youcant

I'm better and worse today. Right now I'm good as both children are asleep and the OH is out so I can play final fantasy and eat haribo in peace! Small pleasures feel oh so good.

YouCant I find people who have babies who sleep more annoying than childless friends (some anyways!) when you tell them about your non sleeping baby they always give a confused look like "really?? But babies are supposed to sleep X amount of hours. You should do what I did..." FUCK OFF!! Do you not think I've tried these things?! Don't look at me like it's my fault!(And breathe )
It's not that I don't appreciate advice, it's the "you should" that I hate, like as if that is the definite answer.
MamaHanji I'm not sure if DS was heading this way anyways, like I said the couple of nights before the weekend away he was becoming increasingly difficult to get to sleep so it may just be coincidence! The good news is there was plenty of people to help watch him so I could catch up on some sleep/Dr Who! Oh & I totally get small pleasures, mines is when it's bath time (DH's job) I sit downstairs & eat chocolate
furryelephant oh the screaming the whole way through swimming lessons is awful! DS would scream when getting changed, & any time in the pool when he wasn't gripping on to me like a koala, then again when getting dried & changed. It really puts me off going

DD had a 3 hour nap this afternoon from 3-6pm so I'm tempted to take her swimming for her to scream every day if she does that! Instead of doing anything useful I laid on my bed and let her sleep on me am just feeling exhausted and fed up today, probably just being silly from the tiredness but I feel like DD is going to attach herself to me forever as she's got no bond with another parent if that makes sense, it's only been me who's ever settled her or changed her or fed her feel like she's just going to have an unhealthy attachment to me 

@YouCantArgueWithStupid that sleep is amazing! Go DD!! fingers crossed that tonight is the same 

@Speedybloomer I second the calpol plug ins! DD had a blocked nose so often that I couldn't justify buying so many and bought a cheap dehumidifier from Amazon and put some olbas oil on a muslin over the end of her cot which helped 

@MamaHanji enjoy your evening that sounds fab!

@DisneyIsMyDrug That's what DD did it's horrible isn't it! Felt like she was ruining the other baby's lesson

You talk about childless people complaining of being tired? My sister has gone one better than that. She got a puppy a couple of weeks ago and this was the text conversation between us on a Saturday night:

DSIS: what you up to tonight?
ME: put DS to bed, eat dinner go to bed. Same old same. You?
DSIS: we got a baby sister so we can have a date night, looking forward to it
ME: a babysitter?! For a dog?! I'm jealous, I'd love a date night. Can't remember the last time me and DH got to even eat cold dinner together.
DSIS: I know how you feel! We are making the most of it while we can. It will be nice but we can't drink too much because DPUPPY wakes us up at 5.
ME: fuck off

Youvegot that cheered me up I've got to say yes, because a puppy is definitely the same as a child that's the first time I've ever heard of not drinking because of a puppy!!

She now refers to puppy as her son and says things like 'he's my child' 'it's the same as having a baby' 'give your nephew a kiss'

Oh god I'm all in favour of loving your pets as part of the family, but their part is as a pet (duh ). Dread to think what she'd be like if she has an actual baby

Can I join? Me and DH haven't had the bed to ourselves in well over a year. Ds1 is 3.5yrs and still wakes in the night, and ds2 is nearly 14 mths and is currently waking hourly and has been for past 3 weeks (neither have slept through). I've had one full nights sleep in 3 yrs when I escaped for a night with my Dsis last January.

Hey @StorminaBcup that sounds awful you poor thing! Has anything happened for ds2 to be waking hourly?

DS must have heard me yesterday! Put him down at 7:30 but he woke at 11. He then woke again at 4 and hasn't gone back to sleep. He is now murdering his light projector on the side of his bed while singing away to himself. My eyes are burning and I would give my right arm away for a full nights sleep

DD has been similar tried from 9-10:30pm to get her in the cot. Gave up. Then woke at 1am,3am, and 5am for feeds, and 3 more times to settle. Still awake from the 5am and currently in my bed (obviously ) trying to crawl and then shouting as she can't