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zombiemeow · 16/09/2015 21:01

Anyone who has done pupd give me some advice, I have no idea what I'm doing. Is it as obvious as just picking up and putting down? ????How long has it taken to work for you... If at all? ????I always said I wouldn't do sleep training but I'm absolutely broke Sadds is almost 10 mo and we're lucky if he sleeps 2-3 hours at night.

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Pinkpowderpuff · 17/09/2015 19:18

I would have just let him fall asleep holding your hand if he was drifting off. If you are still in his room and he is quiet then stay until he falls asleep. If he starts crying you could just say shhhhh or time to sleep, some phrase that you can repeat. When my DS was younger I used to leave him in his cot and sit in his room where he couldn't see me. If he got upset I would shush him, if he didn't calm down but got more wound up I would pat him until he stopped crying then as soon as he stopped I ceased patting. If he started up again I would pat again. Basically this carried on until he fell asleep with me not patting. I hope that make sense!

Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 19:19

Hi zombie , how are you ? Remember you from precious threat that vanished. Sorry to hear you still having problems . I tries pupd with my son and it didn't work all so I switches to cc which worked quickly . I works switch to cc given the situation . You must he shattered . You could just do five min intervals and then switch to ten . I did tuis with my dd but never left her longer than 10 min. She did start sleeping through as was very happy during the day but now teething has ruined everything as she needs the comfort ! Good luck.

Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 19:20

Sorry about all the typos . Bloody phone ....

Pinkpowderpuff · 17/09/2015 19:28

I get the feeling the OP doesn't want to do cc, otherwise I'm sure she would have by now. I could never do it, no matter how badly my boys were sleeping. For what it's worth OP, I found both my boys sleep improved after 12mo. My 17mo is still a crap sleeper but nowhere near as bad as he was at10mo!

Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 19:33

It is hard but cc doesn't mean letting a baby cry it out , you are still there to comfort them. How will a baby learn to self settle if they are rocked or whatever at every wake up . Months and months of sleep deprivation is not good for anyone's health .

Pinkpowderpuff · 17/09/2015 19:43

I know it's not good - I've had 17 months of it so far! However, I have taught both mine to self settle with techniques that are gentler than CC. My 17mo goes to bed without a peep, I just pop him in his cot and walk out. Despite this he still wakes and calls for me 3 times a night, so self settling isn't exactly the holy grail it's made out to be. I can't even do cc for his night wakings as I literally go in, lie him down and walk out again and he 8/10 times goes straight back to sleep.....

Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 19:51

I totally understand where you are coming from pink powder . It really didn't take that long with dd but every baby is different and I wouldn't be able to do it for hours.

Acorncat · 17/09/2015 20:06

Mine is also CMPA and certain foods really upset his sleep. Lots of them are also allergic to soya so it could be worth cutting that out for a bit. It's frustrating because lack of sleep can be the only allergy symptom for my DS so trying to identify them is a nightmare.

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zombiemeow · 17/09/2015 20:19

Well I sat in his room and he was fine for a few mins, then he stood up and started screaming. I left him for 10 mins upsetting myself in the next room and then he was making this horrible noise so I had to go in and see if he was alright. He was hiccuping/burping. I lay him down and held his hand until he fell asleep. He woke up once more since and I gave him his dummy and lay him down and he fell asleep. This is so hard Sad hi sycamore! Smile glad your having better sleep now

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nottheOP · 17/09/2015 20:20

I think that is a good start zombie. Do keep words to a minimum when doing gradual retreat but the odd hand on the tummy is a good start. Settling in his cot is the way forward, that way when they wake up it is where they fell asleep and you can improve from there.

You're doing well zombie, baby sleep is a bit soul destroying at times!!

nottheOP · 17/09/2015 20:28

Oh xPost! He's asleep on his own in his cot = good start.

Ideally You'd spend a bit less time in his room but you can get there in time

Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 20:29

Good luck zombie . This has prob been suggested but I use a white noise teddy with dd , if she wakes up and moans the White noise comes on and it gets her back to sleep . Doesn't work all the time but worth a try Flowers

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zombiemeow · 17/09/2015 21:06

Thanks notthe. Ohhh sycamore where can I get one from?

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Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 21:26

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Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 21:27

Here is the link for it zombie
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Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 21:28

I think it could work for older babies too as it's quite relaxing ...

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zombiemeow · 17/09/2015 22:14

Thanks sycamore, will have a look.

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Sycamore76 · 17/09/2015 22:26

Ok good luck ....

GammonAndEgg · 18/09/2015 07:00

How was your night Zombie?

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zombiemeow · 18/09/2015 08:19

Absolutely horrendous Sad he took ages to get to sleep. He woke another 4 times before 10. I went to bed and he then slept until 1, then he was up until 3.30 when I ended up feeding to sleep. I don't know how I'm going to do any sleep training as I get so exhausted and end up feeding to sleep. I really don't know how people do it Sad

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nottheOP · 18/09/2015 08:28

Oh zombie that's a tough night. He must be so overtired too which won't help.

Do try to persevere, it will be a tough week but you should see an improvement by day 4/5.

What's your plan for the day?

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zombiemeow · 18/09/2015 08:37

I don't know really, it's my birthday so we are supposed to be going out for lunch but I might cancel. I would arrange things around his naps but they're so unpredictable Hmm

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Sycamore76 · 18/09/2015 08:56

Zombie , sorry to hear your night was rough . And happy birthday !
Can you start the sleep training when your partner can help out . I think the first two nights are the worst . It's very tough as you have to be very consistent . My nights are better but some nights I still give her a bf when she wakes after 3. Also give her a dream feed at 1030/11 so she doesn't go through but will sleep for a longer stretches now as she can settle herself . It's worth persevering with . Do you have a strict routine re feeds during day as I was told this makes a big difference . Hope you get some decent naps today Flowers

nottheOP · 18/09/2015 09:02

Cake & Flowers

Happy Birthday! Is your DP off work today? I think you deserve a birthday nap in a quiet house if he is. Go out for your lunch

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zombiemeow · 18/09/2015 09:24

Thanks Smile he is off today so am going to try and get a nap. He's pretty good with his feeds having them at the same time. I may try a dream feed tonight, I used to do it when he was littler but it didn't seem to make a difference but will try again. I was worried today whether maybe he is having a growth spurt so is just hungry in the night but I wouldn't think it would go on this long and also usually if I feed him straight away he doesn't go back to sleep and can be up hours. Do you still get the dreaded growth spurts at this age?

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