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22m ds still not sleeping through at night... defo getting to end of tether, energy, patience...

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MrsBigD · 26/06/2006 07:36

I know this topic has probably been done to death but didn't want to jump on anybodies thread as it's a very personal thing I think as every tod is different

O.k. the background... I don't think I've had a full night's sleep in nearly 5 years. First dd was a terrible sleeper but that's thankfully changed now that she's 4.5y. Got close to the end of my thether then but 'survived'.

DS will be 2y in September and is getting worse at night. Never been great and woke at least 2 or 3 times a night but atm it's constantly unless I stay with him, which means I don't get sleep because he rummages through my hair. So I have to send dh in to get him back down.

No issue with ds going to sleep as it's 'time for bed' he grabs his bottle and trotts off. Problem is staying asleep.

Both dh and I are so tired that we are starting to loose our rag, which I'm sure can't be good for the kids.

Fair enough last week I could have understood his awful sleeping pattern as he'd had a fall the weekend before and on top of that got gastric enteritis according to GP. But he's only had that for last week not all the time before iykwim.

Tried going back in settling him with putting him back down, with and without 'it's nighttime and time to sleep', and then leaving the room.

Tried limited cc - problem is he'll wake up dd who then will come and get us (cute really if it weren't so frustrating). I'm not that keen on doing full blown cc as when he cries a lot he throws up...

Tried sending dh in so that ds doesn't want to cuddle/play with me, and also dh is more 'severe' with the kids so if he says 'no' they accept it

I'm suspecting that ds has tummy trouble as he does seem to have wind a lot.

Each time I take ds to the GP for other things I do mention to the GP that he doesn't sleep, but so far they have not responded to it as ds is always very awake and alert...

I'm that 'desperate' for sleep that I jumped at the opportunity to go away for a week with my mother!!!

HELP if you can.

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MrsBigD · 26/06/2006 15:08

be strong? ok 'over to you dh' . Need sleep, I'm sick and tired of feeling sick and tired if that makes any sense?

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bluejelly · 26/06/2006 15:11

Alas I had no dh to hand it over to... ( not looking for sympathy vote, just to say you CAN do it on your own.)
Keep telling yourself that you are just teaching him to go back to sleep on his own without you, it's not at all cruel and if you are calm and consistent you will have knocked in on the head by the end of the week! Go for it

MrsBigD · 26/06/2006 15:31

bj a good friend of mine is a single mum and I keep telling her that I admire how she copes on her own, with no respite and no possibility to at least hand the kid over to partner for a little while when it's just getting too much. Frankly I think I probably would go bonkers, but then again i guess needs must??? Still she's one strong lady she is!

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bluejelly · 26/06/2006 16:51
Grin
FrannyandZooey · 26/06/2006 19:02

"Dr Ferber's sleep book is good, reasonable, kindly, doable etc"

I completely disagree with that.

Try Elizabeth Pantley's "No Cry Sleep Solution for Toddlers" if you want a book that is kind and reasonable.

popsycal · 26/06/2006 19:07

much much sympathy
when you find the answer, can you tell me so that I can inform ds2

dinosaure · 26/06/2006 22:11

No Cry Sleep Solution is warm fluffy and lovely. And completely ineffectual, ime anyway .

Whereas whatever you think about controlled crying (and my views on it changed on the journey from DS1 to DS3), it does work...

bakedpotato · 26/06/2006 22:19

not unrelated

MrsBigD · 26/06/2006 22:28

thanks baked potatoe! So related!

After much deliberation with dh we have 'chosen' to go for the milk/drink reduction first off. DS isn't going to be a happy camper .

Good thing tonight dh, dd and I all fell asleep in our bed at 2000 (I've reemerged because ds was crying). I resisted urge to grab bottle in sleepy daze and just readjusted him, rubbed his tummy firmly for about 30 seconds, told him it's time to sleep and left the room. Probably a bit too much interaction? But he seems windy...

As dd has sprawled out on my side of the bed and I can't transfer her to her bed (top bunk and I can't lift her that high) I'll be on the sofa tonight on 'ds watch' whilst dh is catching up on some sleep

Wish me luck!

Popsycal... I let your ds know LOL

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bluejelly · 27/06/2006 12:37

How did last night go Mrs Big d

MrsBigD · 27/06/2006 12:58

just as bad a nights as ever of course but I reduced the amount of milk/drink ds got. Unfortunately dh accidentially boykotted due to sleepy/murky brain and went into the kitchen to make new bottel for ds ... managed to settle ds quickly a few times though by rubbing his tummy and saying 'good night'. He was very windy and the rubbing seemed to help to 'liberate' iykwim .

Hoping that once we've managed to cut out drink in the night the flatulence will also be reduced.

Then unfortunately at 0500 the nappy leaked and after the nappy change there was no way ds was going back to sleep especially as his bed was soaked too and in our bed he just wants to play.

I shall persevere and beat it into dh tonight that the only 2 bottles ds will be getting tonight is 3oz at 2300 and maybe 3oz at 0430 - ususally he has a full bottle of 8oz! Last night I reduced to 4oz. Hoping that by end of week we'll be at 0oz

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Highlander · 27/06/2006 15:25

thinking of you MrsD - promise you'll let us know how you get on!

MrsBigD · 27/06/2006 15:30

oh I will... either a thread with 'yippieh it worked' or 'HEEEEELLLLLLLP'

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dinosaure · 27/06/2006 16:04

Am thinking of you too, and wishing you all the best!

popsycal · 27/06/2006 18:11

mrsbigd
we are tryng the milk reduction thing with ds2......only it gets to his 3 rd waking and i forget
got it down to about 5 minutes (breastfed) and at a stalemate
though I can leave him to sleep on an evening now and CLOSE THE DOOR BEHIND ME!!

a small miracle
good luck

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