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Needles was at breaking point with a screaming 10 mo DD
Hear had experienced the magic of ONE unbroken night!
Dreaming was continuing to confound all with her ability to manage three children on four or five minutes a night, thanks to DT the Terrible.
Stitch was still having her sleep eaten by...erm...Stitch.
Poppy was pondering how the actual fark she was going to manage a newborn on top of BabyAmex's night time shenanigans.
And the desperate Elphaba had turned night duties entirely over to DH with mastitic results.
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ElphabaTheGreen · 11/06/2013 21:29
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ElphabaTheGreen ·
18/06/2013 19:56
Oh dear, Dreaming and Poppy 
If it's any consolation, DS hasn't yet come close to the fabled 7pm-7am. The best we've had is 7pm-4:50am about three times now. We're still getting a co
wake-ups a night then up for the day no later than 5:15.
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ElphabaTheGreen ·
18/06/2013 20:04
*a couple of wake-ups a night.
MN app playing silly buggers AGAIN! 
Would write more but giving me THE SHITS (sixth attempt at this post! )
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amazingmumof6 ·
19/06/2013 09:02
this is to cheer you all up 
:
I'm wide awake, you're in my arms and screaming
You're in pain, coz you are teething,
But it's 4 am! I'm seething..
We tried Dentinox, Bonjela and Calgel
Desperately begging Mumsnet for an answer
Coz every moment spent like this makes me feel like a failure!
I really wanna close my eyes,
I just wanna fall asleep
Would do anything, babe
But I won't put you in a sling!
I'm running out of patience now
I wanna help you, tell me how
Would do anything, but
I'm not driving and I won't sing!
Lying in my bed hyperventilating,
And I'm wondering what you're feeling
Why the fuck you are not sleeping
Then I realize
it's 5am! I'm crying!
I just want to end this night, because this is a nightmare
a nightmare, a nightmare
I really wanna close my eyes...
(Aerosmith)
PoppyAmex ·
19/06/2013 10:10
Hear I'm disproportionately happy for you! Yay!
(might have something to do with the fact that our DC were born in the same week, so I'm hopeful it's a SIGN for DD!)
Oh well, if we never see you again, it has been nice knowing you
Elph your DS is getting ready to sleep through, it's clear as anything. Any day now...
amazing I'll be humming that tonight at 3am when DD is chatting away.
Stitch at least there's loads of teeth coming through at the same time
I'm going to Ikea to stock up on nursery things as we're doing the big move this weekend. I can't believe how nervous I am (and slightly sad, as she has never slept away from me)
amazingmumof6 ·
19/06/2013 10:21
poppy - that was my pure aim and reason.
to cheer you up in those dark, lonely hours of pain and misery!
and I know what I'm talking about - we have 5 boys and a baby girl - I do not remember having a proper night sleep in 12 years!
amazingmumof6 ·
19/06/2013 15:54
needles
you'd be CRAZY not too!
I'd point you to the front door and tell you to WALK THIS WAY!
amazingmumof6 ·
20/06/2013 07:55
Feek listen to Needles, some wise words there!
I remember fretting shopping with s toddler and a baby when I was pg with DS2.
nowadays, if I must, I have to take all six! it's fine!
it doesn't feel like it now, but I guarantee you that you'll figure it out!
my DS3 had serious separation anxiety when he was 15 months old - he was fine previous to my trip, but when I got back after 5 days he went ballistic!
I didn't realize what was going on for weeks, I thought he was just naughty, then he was teething as well.
It got so bad, he would scream when I tried to put him down for a nap -which was never a problem before!
took me 5 months to sort it, by then I was 4 months pg with DS4.
if I can do it so can you!
Ubermumsy ·
20/06/2013 09:58
Hello ladies! Tis I, fishandjam as was...
Not been on for a while but I like the new fred. Sorry to see people still struggling - and I am in need of handholding too If a good fairy was to turn up and say that she could grant me my heart's desire, I'd ask for an unbroken night's sleep!
DD is still rubbish at sleeping but it's bearable, especially now she's more or less 100% formula rather than boob. (She started to lose interest once she got her chops round bottles at nursery. This, you may recall, is the baby who flatly refused bottles at home. She now slugs 180ml at a time quite happily.)
DS age 3.5, however, has gone from being a wonderful sleeping angel to... well, I don't know. He wakes several times a night, screaming and crying, and won't settle again unless either me or DH are physically next to him. I don't think it's night terrors as he is awake when it's happening. We've ended up either getting him into our bed or one of us getting into his bed, but it's a nightmare as we don't really sleep - he thrashes about, kicks us, is really hot and ends up shoving us to the very edges of the bed!
Anyone got any ideas?
feek, that sounds mega stressful but as needles says, please try not to worry. Your DD may well improve her sleeping by the time the baby arrives. (Congrats, by the way!)
amazing, I love the Aerosmith cover.
Right, off to read the rest of the thread.
BigPigLittlePig ·
20/06/2013 19:43
Can I join please?
In 7 months, I can count on one hand the number of times I have had more than 3 hours sleep. I go back to work (50+ hours a week) in 9 days time. I will be misery personified
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ElphabaTheGreen ·
20/06/2013 21:38
Hello BigPig. I lasted about four months working full time on the same quota of sleep you describe before I was reasonably certain I was going to collapse and die. At this point in time, the fourth round of sleep training seems to be having some effect on 13mo DS and (I say again, at this point in time, as it has all gone completely tits-up in the past after a painfully brief honeymoon period) I've had 6-7 unbroken hours' sleep most nights for the past week. This soporific bliss is tainted somewhat by the fact that it seems to be coming to an end at increasingly ridiculous hours - 4:30am is up-and-at-em time DS? Really? Good job I'd have to get up for work at 6am anyway but I'm still going to bed at child-o'clock to get in enough hours to get me through a working day without walking into walls more than I already do. Still haven't really had an evening with DH since he was born. Hey ho. I'm a lot more rested than I was and early waking beats 6-10 wake-ups a night any day.
Oh, crumbs, another reformed sleeper fallen off the wagon again feekerry Not at all depressing for those of us newly rediscovering sleep and thinking all of our troubles are over, eh Hear? Hear...? She's probably snoring too loudly in her baby-free bed to hear me
Would the gradual retreat that we did be worth a try feek, Poppy and uber, even if it just buys you a little respite for a while? I got nothing for you, Dreaming. Sir DT Puke-a-Lot makes anything where crying may be involved a bit tricky...
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DreamingOfAFullNightsSleep ·
20/06/2013 21:54
That bloody baby makes everything a bit tricky. Can you tell I'm particularly sleep deprived and grumpy?!
Hello feek I 'met' you on a thread where we all thought we would be pregnant forever, no?! Except I had an eviction date booked for my duo, just didn't think I'd actually survive to make it I was so vast
I did gradual retreat with my dd at that age feek, about 13-17 months- it took a while, but did work. Reckon I'd try it with your ds uber, and a star chart for staying in bed?? My dd likes us to stay in with her too, but she's 2.9 now and finally we can talk her round a bit/ bribe her... Worth a try maybe? We are also trying a gro clock for her...
So, today I have a fat lip, after Dt1 was fed at 10pm, unsettle-able again by 11 but to avoid feeding I brought him into our bed, where he lulled me into a false sense of optimism then arched so violently I got a bleeding lip. The horror. Plus Dt2 up twice, so i fed him twice too 
plus dd up once. Then i went to work for a break
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