Persuade me that I really ought to do something about DS2's sleep and tonight is the night....

[popsycalindisguise]

I really need to but really don't know if I have it in me...again

I wish you luck. We tried but then thicko neighbour started shouting "Shut up" through teh walls so have no confidence to do it again. You can do it. Want detailed report back.

I promised myself that the Easter holidays was the time.....clock is ticking away
:)

good luck

Best of luck!

We have just done some serious sleep training with ds (11 months) as i was feeling so ill from lack of sleep. It took four days (nights) and now we have a very happy little chappie who eats twice as much and crys half as much during the day as before. he goes down and settles with out tears and only wakes once through the night and settles really quick again, in fact we have had a couple of sleep through nights of late! It is definately worth it, i finally have time now to myself in the evening and have taken up knitting ( ok so maybe knitting is not a great endorsement for getting him to sleep but i enjoy it) to fill my evenings! I know it's not easy but life is soooo much easier when you've all had a good sleep! good luck!

You know it makes sense.

We have a serious job on our hands here though.

Who am I kidding
I have a serious job on my hands....

by the weekend you should be getting much more sleep...
good luck!

13 months of habitual feeding to sleep co-sleeping to undo....

well i failed at the first hurdle

How badly did you fail ??

I have a 20 month old that prefers to sleep on the sofa of an evening and our bed at night so will watch this thread.

In my (pathetic) defence, she has been ill seemingly continuously since October and used to being held etc.

And I can't listen to her cry.

Get me a backbone someone.

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He cried at 9:30 for 40 minutes then was sick so I feed him and he fed and fed and fed....really huge feed.

Then went back in his cot. Then I woke at about 3am and he was, by some miracle, lying in bed next to me.

hmm

lol LSG

I am rubbish

We tried last night but ended up in our bed, sigh.

Popsycal, I've done that before.
He probably woke up and you wnet to get him still half asleep.

I've also done this when they're ill. Have found myself in their bedroom holding a bowl for ds1 (or 2, can't remember) while he was being sick.
Quite amazing really although horrid to "wake up" with sick flying threw the air in front of me.

no advice on the sleep thing though, sorry.

I have a few different threads on here over since around November of my woes and failed attempts. I really don't know what to do any more :(

Hi Popsycal, just want to say good luck. I have read some of your other threads as I have had lots of sleep issues with dd. I have managed to improve them considerably over the last month or so but it is an uphill struggle still.

how did you make things improve?

I am going to for it again tonight,

He had a good dinner and a big feed before bed....
he has just settled himself to sleep beautifully in his cot provng that he can do it.
Will give him a feed at10pm - probably shouldnt but cold turkey is a bt much. will try to catch him BEFORE he wakes though/
other than that, I will try not to get him out of the cot before 5:30

arrrrrrgh

You know what Tipex - I totally agree with you. And I think that i want to 'crack' it for the wrong reasons.......

Sorry, had meant to expand on last post but an over tired dd was acting up (having been up at 5.30 so maybe I shouldn't be giving advice to anyone!). Basically I stopped breastfeeding at night. I could not face CC so did a wimps method that has not had miracle results but I do feel things are a little better.

First,I made sure she would happily take formula in principle, mixed in cereal then from a bottle (she likes the whole act of drinking from a bottle so this was easy). This way I knew I wasn't starving her. I then decided on what I thought was reasonable feeding times through the night. I think I settled on a dream feed around 10, then 2am, the up at 6. If she seemed really distressed between times I was willing to give a bottle as she had been used to eating alot more frequently. The first night I had a good 3 hours crying and maybe 2 hours the next. Tbh a lot of it is a blur now but I would rock and cuddle and bring to bed with me. After a week or so we had our evenings back between 7 and 10, then she started going longer so my new rule was no feed between 12 and 5. If she cried after that I would just tell myself well it can go on until 5am at most then I'll feed her! The max it seems she can last is 2 hours awake anyway and by this point it wasn't really crying, just on off moaning and flopping around my bed. She then slept through from 7-6 for 2 nights, to lull me into a false sense of security. We've had a couple bad nights but she will now accept formula in the night so I assume she is sometimes still hungry and the pattern seems to be she sleeps from 7ish to 4 or 5. I think the problem is that she still doesn't know how to fall asleep without a feed, but refusing the feeds stopped her waking so much in the first place.

Sorry this is so long, hope some of it can be of use!
Good luck.

(now need to attend to screaming baby in cot refusing to nap)

ds2 wont have formula or cows milk - but will have ebm from a bottle. but my supplies are running low of ebm....

thikn i may try the non-feeding thing but allow cuddles and getting out of the cot..
hmm
guess i ought to have a plan and stick to it :)

will feedback tomorrow

thanks for everyone's support