Misery loves company: anyone want to join me on a support thread for those desperate and demoralised by their 8/9/10 mo sleep?

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Bloody sleep regression. It's like 4 months all over again but worse because it felt (briefly) like we were getting somewhere. Feck. Anyone else want to share tales of woe or is it (a) just me or (b) way too depressing to post about..?

Wow, that's an advanced baby, FairyJen. Or is my DS a bit slow He still hasn't worked out crawling at 8mo much less sitting himself up from lying, waving and saying 'hiya'! A friend's 11mo DD is also very advanced and is also an awful sleeper so maybe the two things go fist in glove?

feekerry My DS won't settle for my DH either - quite the opposite actually. DS might be whimpering quietly in his cot, DH will go in to try and settle him, and whimper will escalate instantly into a scream. DH finds it quite upsetting as he wants to be able to help (and Christ knows I'd desperately love to share the night wakings) and he also thinks it means DS doesn't like him

Lucky you, Boomerwang! Hopefully we won't see you again, and I mean that in the best way!

Dreaming I made the unwise decision to try and cut DS's fingernails after a night of three broken hours of sleep. I nipped the tip of his finger off, and my God, the BLOOD. I think I cried for about an hour. I managed to drop him face-first onto his highchair once as well after he did an unexpected twist as I was lifting him out. The god-daughter of a work colleague dropped her newborn down the stairs and it bounced All babies still alive and thriving, though, and not holding it against us.

I wish I had changes to report. None, sadly, apart from another regression. We haven't had a four hour stretch after first going to sleep again since I came on here and opened my big mouth about it He also decided being awake for an hour last night would be fun. At least it wasn't over two hours like the night before.

Back to work two weeks today. Sick at the thought on so many levels

elph he doesn't crawl he rolls. When on floor he will push himself around with his hands but always in reverse!

He is bang asleep right now. Come this time in the morning tho and it's a different story.

Hi everyone. Sorry I've not been on here recently. DD's sleeping has been so awful, I've not even had the wherewithal to come online and construct sensible posts! But last night she went down at 7, woke and yelled at 9.30 (but didn't want feeding)... and then slept until 5am! And only woke then cos I made her, as it felt like my norks were about to explode. She fed and went back to sleep until 7am.

Bizarrely I feel like death warmed up today, from not feeling too bad on weeks of 4 broken hours a night. And I know I'll now just get cross when she goes back to 2 hour stretches interspersed with bawling. (Because I know she can do a whole night.) Fingers crossed it's not a fluke!

Congratulations boom and fish. May your sleepy nights be long and reliable :o

Last night dd only woke 3 times (yay!), but one of those times was for 1.5 hours (boo!). So swings and roundabouts here.

Dd did her first steps today. Only a couple of wobbly ones and then she fell over but I am all proud and impressed. She can't crawl at all, not even close, doesn't roll, or bum shuffle, straight to walking it seems :)

On the subject of injuring babies I have boshed dd round the head so many times its ridiculous. On the very first time I took to toddler group I had her in the sling.I walked in through the door and managed to crack her head on the door frame so entered the room with a screaming baby who had a growing red mark on her forehead and of course everyone in the room staring at me in horror. Mortified doesn't even come close

I don't whack babies' heads, but my speciality seems to be bending their fingers the wrong way when getting them dressed. Especially coats. Sodding things.

Fish I am petrified of doing that. Luckily I have small hands so I put mine up the sleeve and close my hand around her fist so I don't pull any fingers.

(Sorry, came back for another look - baby still sleeping well)

boomer I do that but still manage to feck it up, eliciting loud wails!

DD asleep, let's see how long it lasts tonight.

Evening all. An okay night last night actually. Woke at 10pm and 4am so well pleased with that. Tonight it has taken about 2 fecking hours to get dd to sleep. My back kills.
poppy i am a big fan of calpol and nurofen when teething. I know some people don't like to give it often but i am past the point of caring tbh!! If i was teething i would want pain relief!!
I give a dose of nurofen 2 hours before bed and a dose of calpol at bed time. I do this until the tooth has broken thru so maybe 4/nights in a row.

For those that asked dd settles with dp fine for naps. Its just bedtime she has a breakdown if he goes in to her. Its a real shame as back.before all this started i was going out with my friends once a week as if dd woke dp could settle her fine. No such luck now.

How is everyone getting on tonight ??

All mine are asleep, but i have the Night Dreads.

DT1 never gets past 10:30 though. As soon as he's less snotty I'm going to re try not feeding then. It's him normally in the travel cot. Except when he's in bed with me.

My aim tonight don't drop the baby out of bed

fishandjam that's absolutely amazing!! Long may it last, hurrah!! I don't know if it gives me hope or further despair though as i just can't get blooming DT1 to settle without boob or vigorously jigging him... He does settle from awake in the evening though. Argh!!!

elphaba I've done that to DD in the depths of sleep deprivation when she was a titch. Apparently everyone does it, so my mummy friend said when i confessed... And mine are 9.5 months, no crawling here. Though one is a proficient roller, specializes in free fall to the floor from my bed . DD walked at 10.5 months with no crawling...

I took my eye off my daughter when she was 8 months old and I feel terrible about it to this day. She was sitting on the sofa at a time when she never moved around, and was playing with a toy. I was on the pc. I heard this heavy thud and I felt sick right away. I'd turned before the crying started, picked her up and hugged her so tightly. My boyfriend jumped out of bed, took her off me and took her to the kitchen to look at her under the light. I heard him say 'oh you hit your nose' and saw him wiping her face with a tissue... then I saw the blood... and then I looked down and saw that I was covered with blood too. I fell to bits, sat down and bawled my eyes out, feeling utterly wretched that I had hurt my own child. Took a lot to calm me down.

We took her to hospital where she fell asleep waiting to be seen. She had a fat lip and a crusty nose but was otherwise quite fine.

Still makes my blood run cold, though.

I'm lucky not to have injured him then!!

5 wake-ups last night, full change of clothes/ bag at 1:30 for the fourth night in a row for DT2, but i didn't drop the baby out of bed, so a success...

Any news from anyone else?

Slept 7pm until 11:30pm! Woop!

Four wake-ups after that, including a full 45 minutes on the boob

Huh, looks like it was an aberration. Normal service resumed last night - awake 10.30pm, 2am, 3am, 5am. Though I managed to fend her off with a dummy for the 2am and 3am wakings.

dreaming, slogans, bummer dudes. I know what you mean about the Night Dreads! The only consolation is that they will sleep through eventually. (But when? I find myself wailing.)

boomer, my DS fell all the way down the stairs when he was around 20 months old. Bounced all the way and somersaulted round the bend at the bottom. I was so freaked I took him to A&E - not so much as a carpet burn on him. But I shook for the rest of the day.

Welcome FairyJen :)

Well done baby Roar on your first steps. Can't wait until stitch starts walking, she has been cruising since she was 8.5 months and could do it if she tried, but it is the confidence I think.

Well done fishandjam and boomer on your successes, long may they last!

Fee just remember it is a phase and it will pass x

Dreaming if dt1 is in the travel cot, have you tried putting extra padding on the mattress? Had a horrible stay at my mum's house when dd1 where she just wouldn't sleep in the travel cot until we put a duvet on the mattress.

A reasonable night here, bed at 8.30pm, waking for feeds at 11.30, 3 and 7, settled easily. Still didn't get much sleep as I am ill.

slogans? I meant elphaba! Wretched autocomplete.

X-post fishandjam :( sorry you had a bad one.

Well done baby green 4 hours in a stretch is an improvement, hope you enjoyed your baby free evening Elphaba.

Dd1 has had several big bumps. DH passed out with her in his arms (he was ill) at the top of the stairs when she was 2, she bounced down and luckily he bounced over her, or she would have been more injured.

he went to bed at 7 then woke up at 10 when I went to bed and didn't drift off again till 2!!!!

All I can say is it's a good job he's cute!

DO any of you have DCs that previously self-settled and have now stopped? DS has been quite good at self-settling as long as he is content from 11 weeks old, when we instigated a bedtime routine and stopped co-sleeping, but we seem to be going downhill on this front. Putting him down kicks off the writhing, crying, sitting up/pulling self up in cot, screaming, etc. Notice we are right on the cusp of a development phase as per The Wonder Weeks as well. SIGH.

Last night we only had two wake-ups but it took over an hour to get him back down both times.

fairy, that's exactly what DH and I say to DD! "Good job you're cute, or we'd have sold you to vivisectionists before now."

ballroompink Sounds like separation anxiety...? Can't remember how old yours is sorry, but 9 months is when it would kick in.

He's 8m 1wk old. I think it could well be separation anxiety!

Ballroom, my daughter is a week older and exactly the same, especially your earlier post about falling asleep on you then crying when put in cot.

We had a better night last night - she had a late nap from 4-5 after swimming then played til bathtime at 7. And she went in her cot first time! Woke at 10.30 and took ages to settle again so I brought her in with us but it meant we had an evening to ourselves. Yay

She's a lot less crabby today and yesterday about me leaving the room so I hope hope hope that she's coming out of the bad patch (and if that's right it's 4 out of 4 for the Wonder Weeks app)

4 wake ups last night with pretty easy settling so I am quite pleased with that. She's been a bit funny today though and not eating very much (she usually eats like a horse) so not sure how tonight will be.

For teething we also do ibuprofen and paracetamol, one just before bedtime and then the other a few hours later if needed. One in the morning as well if she's bad. I can't remember the last time she didn't have something at bedtime at least. She is just constantly teething at the moment and I can't leave her in pain if I can do something about it.

I am another pro-pharmaceuticals. I also find Anbesol better than Bonjela, though it doesn't taste v nice - it got in my mouth once (flailing DD) and I was numb for hours...