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Misery loves company: anyone want to join me on a support thread for those desperate and demoralised by their 8/9/10 mo sleep?

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Suchanamateur · 11/12/2012 14:36

Bloody sleep regression. It's like 4 months all over again but worse because it felt (briefly) like we were getting somewhere. Feck. Anyone else want to share tales of woe or is it (a) just me or (b) way too depressing to post about..?

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feekerry · 17/01/2013 20:26

boom my dd also sleeps better more warm than she should be. Those sleeping bags are 2.5tog... My duvet is 13.5 tog!! Okay i know they wear layers underneath and we prob don't but i think i would still be cold!!

My luck may have run out tho as dd has been up 3 times since i put her down 90 mins ago. I do not have a good feeling tonight.
commander zen is good. What will be will be and all that!!!!

HearMyRoar · 17/01/2013 20:50

Must be something in the air tonight feek. Dd has finally gone to sleep 2 hours later then usual. I am expecting bad things tonight. Not great as work will be hideous and stressful tomorrow if it snows so could have done with a decent night. Ho hum... Still, looking on the bright side, I have amazingly toned arms :)

StitchAteMySleep · 17/01/2013 21:04

Ah sleep fairy working well here, stitch is down after only having one long nap today. Hoping now for less wakes, a stretch of 4 hours sleep would be nice.

However dd1 is in our bed because her dad has fallen asleep in her bed when he was meant to be putting her to bed.

I have a cot bed duvet for stitch that I will start using in a month when she is 1, think it is 4.5 tog. She sleeps better under blankets than in a bag, she doesn't like the bag as she can't stand up when she wakes and gets all distressed. Like the idea of those sleepsuits in 2.5 tog though.

CommanderShepard · 17/01/2013 21:10

Still no good luck here - every time I put her down she wakes up. DH has taken over for a bit.

Dammit, I was sure tonight was going to be better.

feekerry · 17/01/2013 21:23

commander sorry if i have missed it in an earlier post but when does your dd eventually settle???? How long does this go on for?
Once she is asleep does she then sleep okay? Does she seem tired?

I am too dreading work tomorrow as the snow will cause havoc. Dd has stayed asleep but can hear alot of groaning etc so not all that settled

ElphabaTheGreen · 17/01/2013 21:32

£29 for a sleep suit? Shock

Speaking of Shock DS slept for 2.5 hours after the poothon escaped today. It was with me, in bed, but I didn't mind at all because today was my last day alone with him before he starts nursery full time Sad He was exhausted by six and has now been asleep since 6:30. Shock again! I reckon we've probably got another hour max before the whimpering starts. TBH, my right boob feels like a cannon ball so, for once in his short little life, he'd probably be doing me a favour.

Nighty night.

CommanderShepard · 17/01/2013 21:32

She finally makes it into her cot any time in the next hour but she is fast asleep from 7 as long as she's on someone. She'll then do about 90 mins in her cot before waking at which point we take her to our bed where she'll go pretty much all night without fuss - she'll wake but settle immediately.

This has come on so suddenly - it's very weird. She seems to be a very light sleeper all of a sudden.

HearMyRoar · 17/01/2013 21:38

I did have a £15 off voucher when I bought the first one so not too bad. I was so impressed by dd sleeping more then an hour at a time that I went out and paid full price for a second one. Well worth the money in my eyes. We have some lovely sleeping bags but she likes to stick her legs out sideways and also I think she got cold shoulders as they have no sleeves, so they are sitting in a box just in case she changes her mind or until I can be bothered to eBay them.

ElphabaTheGreen · 17/01/2013 22:29

Awake! What'd I say? Eh? Eh? I'm like a Jedi knight when it comes to foretelling my baby's movements. Not complaining at all about having this boob deflated, either. Aaaaaahh....

I s'pose I'd pay quite a lot for something to get longer stretches out of DS, when you put it that way.

Suchanamateur · 17/01/2013 22:35

Need to catch up, but we are in sleep training hell here and too depressed to post properly about it. Go the poothon though. I liked that bit.

2 reading suggestions from me to make you feel better: a wonderful blog/ parenting advice site called Askmoxie if you've not found it yet which hAs always made me feel better about all things sleep, and a novel called ... Night Wakings by Sarah Moss which is brilliant. So good in fact that I am staying up much later than I should to read about a fictional woman's struggles with motherhood

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blossombath · 18/01/2013 09:01

Hello all, been away as first week back at work this week - tried to limit time on MN so I could have more time clutching cuddling DS when at home.

We had a few good nights here (one wake up in 10 hours!!) and I dared to think that I might need to visit this thread and bow out, but now we're back to normal - still better than some of the sleepmonsters on here (2/3 wake ups a night, usually settles fairly easily). I have, however, put up the bed in spare room/nursery so I can sleep in there while feeding him and doze off between feeds if I need to. Also lovely to do a tiny spot of co-sleeping when I was back at work in the day.

Hello to all the new people, haven't fully caught up but I will try to do so today on drive to much needed weekend with friends. Fingers very crossed for lack of snow on our roads, and DS to stay happy in his new car seat...

Boomerwang · 18/01/2013 10:14

She didn't get to sleep until gone 10pm. I heard her scream and raced upstairs to find her playing with toys on the floor and Daddy watching her. I was too tired and miserable to give a damn about the messages he was sending her.

A double edged sword here: She didn't wake up til after 9am (!!!) but I know that means we'll have trouble again tonight. I'm not letting her have an afternoon nap. No. Way.

Problem is I have to go out to the shops this afternoon and I know she'll fall asleep in her pushchair >

PoppyAmex · 18/01/2013 14:12

Hello everyone.

Thanks for that Suchanamateur, I already use a couple of byTerry stuff but hadn't tried the concealer. Will definitely give it a go, as I need all the help I can get.

Well done on the poo-operation - I'm seriously impressed with the whole intervention and taking notes!

HearmyRoar I really love the sleepsuits; DD sleeps on her side and most have the zipper placed there so it digs in. Those look seriously snuggly and it also means she can kick me sprawl better during the night.

Our room is kept pretty toasty for her (and I hate hot bedrooms) but might be worth it to assess how warm she is during the night - could potentially be a cause of wakings?

Things are very much unchanged here; she had got into the habit of seeing her bedtime as just another nap and waking up around 10pm ready to party. Finally managed to (slowly) move her waking up time to 7:30am instead of 9:30am and that helped.

Still waking up a lot during the night though and just started cruising so is obsessed with getting up to practice that.

Seems like she might walk soon and I wonder if it will have any impact on her sleep - any experiences with that?

I feel like she lets me fall asleep and then jolts me right at the moment when I just started resting. Honestly, it's like a form of torture, only perpetrated by the cuttest little dictator.

Nightmoves · 18/01/2013 20:12

Mothercare also do sleep suits with legs and arms and poppers for £15. We have just started using them abd DS quite likes them i think. He also finds it a problem not being able to stand in the bags. Jojo stuff is lovely though.

ElphabaTheGreen · 18/01/2013 20:47

I would like to tentatively and nervously report that DS has slept from 6:30ish until 10:30ish for four nights in a row now. Wake-ups after that have been at least every two hours, but he's been staying asleep for four whole hours several nights in a row. Now that I've told you that, it will all go to pot, however:

Tonight, DH and I had our first evening together on the sofa, just the two of us, in front of the TV eating crap food since DS was born! ShockGrin

My ability to follow a storyline is so utterly decimated by lack of sleep now that I had to keep asking DH what was going on Blush but fuckit, we did it! Woop!

Exhausted. Going to catch two hours of kip now (I hope) before DS is awake again.

CommanderShepard · 18/01/2013 21:25

Yay!

We've had vague progress too - she went into her cot at the second attempt tonight and over the last few nights has been a bit less distressed at finding herself there. Admittedly DH is up settling her again but we'll take it compared to other nights...

She's had a much later bedtime tonight - bath at 7, not 6. She's also had considerably less nap time despite my efforts so I'm beginning to wonder if I have a bizarre baby who rejects the notion of sleep breeding sleep.

Elphaba, DD used to do that reliably and I should never have taken it for granted!

ElphabaTheGreen · 18/01/2013 22:06

Bah. Awake at 9:30. Told ya. Oh well. Got baby-free time with the DH, at least! And we spend it watching telly and eating ready meals, oh the glamorous life

StitchAteMySleep · 18/01/2013 23:27

After last night's success with sleeping 8pm till 1am it all went out the window this evening. Stitch has finally just gone to sleep, she is teething again (number seven, we have several possible contenders) and has a cold. Poor thing really wanted to feed, but kept pulling off every few sucks as she couldn't breathe. Keep trying to move her from our bed to her cot, but she has a bed radar and kicks off every time I try to move her.

Boomerwang · 19/01/2013 01:36

Progress! After reading stuff on this thread, tonight I put my baby to bed at 8.45pm. She kicked and moaned as usual in my boyfriend's arms but I brought out one of her blankets and he wrapped it around her. She kicks off blankets so he wrapped it around her body and left her feet free. Touch wood, she's been asleep since 9pm and it's now 2.40am (when I should be asleep tbh!) and no sound yet....

HearMyRoar · 19/01/2013 07:58

Well done little elpha and boom! Poor little stitch.

Me and dp always have weekend crisp and film nights even if we keep having to stop the film to go and settle dd. We are currently making our way through the breaking bad box set which rocks :)

Dd is definitely past the lovely post new teeth honeymoon and onto the next teeth. Lots of face rubbing and general annoyance.

I also think we need to shorten her naps a bit as she slept much better on 2 40min naps then she ever has on longer ones. Yesterday she had over 2 hours of naps and then woke at 1:30am wanting to sit and make duck noises at me. Took over an hour to persuade her that it was not playtime and she should go to sleep. Does anyone know when they drop to just one nap?

StitchAteMySleep · 19/01/2013 11:24

Stitch is fluctuating between 1-2 naps HearMyRoar and she is 11 months old in 4 days time. I think part of last night's problem was that she tried to go sleep for one longer earlier in the day, but then woke up as I tried to put her in the buggy. She then had another longer nap later in the day so wasn't tired in the evening at the usual time.

I am going to try to keep her to 1 nap today as she managed to feed better in the night and hope that works, I want my child free time in the evening so I can do zumba on the kinect, got to start shifting this belly!

feekerry · 19/01/2013 20:04

Liking the sound of progress for most in here!!!
I have gone over board with the fleece/hotwater bottle thing as we are.having a run of decent nights with 2/3 wakings and easy enough to settle. Would love that to drop to 1 waking but that ain't going to happen.
I long for the day i wake up and its 6am and realise dd didn't wake at all but that is a distant dream lol!!!

hear my dd is nearly 10 months and maybe once or twice a week now.she has just one nap of 90ish mins. However her naps are generally shit and i have to hold her for the whole fecking time so dont use us as a comparison.

CommanderShepard · 19/01/2013 20:16

Back to square one for us - awake as soon as I put her down. Am knackered again and she won't settle for DH anymore. WTF...

ElphabaTheGreen · 19/01/2013 20:50

Happy 400th post! Grin

Commander do you have a bedtime routine?

CommanderShepard · 19/01/2013 20:54

We've had one since she was weeks old - stories, bath, nightclothes on, into sleeping bag, feed and then into cot. It's only in the last couple of weeks that she's started waking and crying when put in her cot.