A thread for my early waking friends who want a whinge

[fififrog]

A few weeks back there were quite a few of us with DCs about a year old, too young for gro clocks etc waking up TOO BLOOMING EARLY. Where are you all at now? DD seems to be getting earlier. Cough not helping but we had 4.55 this morning. I hate to say it but I actually enjoyed her being ill last week as she slept til 6.30 once. Some mornings I think "just a long phase we can live with it" but this morning I was in total despair. Will I ever be able to make it to 10pm without thinking I will regret staying up this late??! I know some of you will say stick with the messing around with morning nap, it will fix it, but to be honest I don't believe it will and I just want to WHINGE to people who will understand!!

Still awake FFS. Not crying or anything. Just chatting to himself in the dark and keeping me awake for fun. Checked on him just to make sure-gave him ibuprofen in case it's teething even though not crying-just covering all bases really. Left him alone-still lying there awake, listening to his lullaby-eyes wide open-please PLEASE go to sleep. I won't be able to get back to sleep now for hours and just when I feel drowsy-I guarantee he'll be up again to start the f-ing day. In despair

Oh feeno what a nightmare. I never had insomnia before DD. My first pregnancy symptom was insomnia and I feel like I haven't slept since. I know what you mean about being awake even when they have finally decided to sleep. I was awake for ages last night when DD was spark out.

Still fucking awake

Insomnia is crap-but my son is making it worse-his sleep patterns have become so poor and mine have become poor in correlation. It's the anxiety-thinking he's gonna wake up, he's gonna wake up and sure enough he does. Like now-he's been awake since 11.45 and is still awake now.

And I lie awake once he's asleep too-complete pants really.

After 3 hours if being awake between 11.45 and 2.45, he then woke up 5.45 to start the day. Fucking rubbish. Shit night doesn't even really mean much of a late fucking morning here. I've had 2 hours of sleep. Each day gets fucking worse.

dd3 woke at 4.30am for the day, I got to bed just after midnight, currently dd1 sounds like she is trying to come through the celing. 9hr day today - urgh!

After 3 hours of being awake between 11.45 and 2.45, he then woke up 5.45 to start the day. Fucking rubbish. Shit night doesn't even really mean much of a late fucking morning here. I've had 2 hours of sleep. Each day gets fucking worse.

Sorry for profanity-can't help it at moment :(

Ferber is the cc chap, but this book goes waaaaaaaay beyond that stuff. For example, it helped me realise that by giving DS milk whatever time he woke up in the morning we were conditioning him to wake up at that time - he was being hard wired to be hungry at that time. So by shifting his milk time later and later we now have 7am as the earliest he's allowed milk. I shifted this gradually over a week or so.

If you've got problems with them waking in the night there are really practical solutions on how to tackle that too.

Not just about cc so I'd strongly recommend getting a copy so you can identify your own issues and then hopefully get some advice that will help.

I was cynical. Now I am not - DS woke at 6:50am today. IT WORKS.

I'll try anything littlemilla. Will order today off amazon

DD must have heard me talking about CC. She didn't wake up until 5.53am. Slept all night. I was awake every 15 minutes from 1am thinking I heard something and dreaming about sleep training in between. I actually dreamed it was 4.12am, then woke up and looked at the clock and it was.

I've realised how far off the mark we are. I think 5.53am is a gift. I was at dinner last night with parents of the mythical 8pm-8am baby. Same age, same everything, just sleeps.

Completely empathise. I can hear him crying when he's not and am constantly ready to jump out of bed even though I don't really go to him when he wakes-stupid really but this is what sleep deprivation does to you. I've been prescribed antid's by my GP now as I'm in such a state but just done some research on the possible effects on the unborn child so will try my best to hold it together until dc2 comes along

Sorry if I've somewhat hijacked this thread-helps to vent somewhere somehow.

Just ordered the Ferber book.

PS littleM I've been giving ds his solid breakfast first since 5 months old and then milk about hour later so he never has anything before 6.30am full stop. Do you think that there are other things I could still be doing/trying to understand from what's in the book? In any case, it's on it's way and I thank you for trying to help me

Xxx

Oh feeno! I remember the insomnia crap. Your own sleep patterns are so messed up and you are so overtired you can't even sleep when they sleep.

Can't imagine ever having another one and doing this again

Going to buy the Ferber book and try cc when Ds is fully over his cold.

Good luck tonight everyone!!!!

hi feeno other suggestions include leaving them for longer before going in - so leave for 5 mins, 10 mins etc. Longest we left DS for was about 25 mins . But he wasn't crying, just whinging. Again, I'd so wanted him to shut the f*ck up that i'd been going in to him quicker and quicker. Not letting htem have a nap until 10am.

Have a skim read and see what you find. I just found that I was doing stuff that I hadn't realised and through a few tweaks we've got one of those mythical 7:30-7ish babies. You might find that you're already doing lots of the suggestions (I was doing a few) but there could just be one thing you're not that could make the difference.

We've also been able to shift to one nap a day and he's averaging about 1.5 most days.

Argh on my 4th wakeup of the night already

Bloody hell thinkfast.

thinkf you poor soul. How terrible.

littlem thank you for the stuff above. Cant wait for book to arrive so I can get started.

How'd rest of the night go think?

Really hope you managed to get some sleep. X

Thanks Feeno. We seem to have replaced a good chunk of about 5 hours sleep followed by an early wakeup with frequent night wakings and a 6 or 6.30 wakeup. Why on earth does he keep waking up???

How old is he? Could it be his molars? I think my son's are starting and it could explain stupid o clock starts and night wakings. He's 15 months old now.

Feeno can your dp do one night shift so u can get one full nights sleep?

Hi think, he was away until yesterday on business so I think I really suffered more without his help, especially being 28 weeks preg. But he's back now and I gave him the monitor, put my ear plugs in and went to sleep. Still woke at 4am-that's all DS's fault!
Hope you have a better night tonight!
Thank you

You too!