3am regular as clockwork.......

[SilverLining]

Right, know this has no doubt been done before but I'm just about clinging on to my sanity by my fingertips! DD2 is 19 weeks - text book in the day and goes to sleep beautifully at 7pm. Wakes up about 11 for a feed which again takes perfectly and then goes back to sleep but no matter what day of the week or whatever the weather wakes up EVERY NIGHT between 2.45 and 3.15! She is not particularly crying but get noisier if we leave her. We've tried milk but shes not overly keen, she's on 3 meals a day (on recommendation of Paediatric Consultant) so I can't believe she is hungry but I am rapidly running out of ideas. We've spent the debt of a third world country on osteopaths, womb bears, different sleeping bags ......DH works away and I've got DD1 who is good as gold but is awake and raring to go at around 6.30am. last night we finally got her to sleep at 4.30 but she was awake again at 5.15 ..... If its something she wants/needs then we will gladly do it - I don't want to sound like one of these mums who want babies sleeping through from 2 weeks! Any suggestions welcome!

SL x

Thanks Vivie - pretty grim to be honest but feel a bit better now DH back. She was awake last night from 1 till 4 but did then sleep till 7.45 so thats progress. Osteopath this morning said its something to do with her vagus nerve (!) which is giving her a tight diapraghm - not sure what to think about it all and its another £40 a shot but worth it if it works! She wants to see her next week - she then patted my knee and told me to get some rest "you look terrible"!!!! Thanks v much! still at least I can laugh about it!!

Got a day at a health farm on Sunday - part of Xmas present so think I can hold out for that and recharge my batteries!!!

How about you?? Still on your unbroken run .... hope thats not jinxed things for you!!!

Thanks for checking up on me - SL x

v interested in this thread. Just joined with intention of posting similar query. Situation not as bad but my dd2, who is 18 weeks, goes 5 or 6 days just waking once for a feed at around 3 to 3.30am and then going back to sleep but then has a night (like last night) when she woke at 2.30am and then was wide awake, and screaming until we put the light on, until 5.30am. Every time I think she's got the hang of sleeping at night she throws in another sleepless one! I suppose I should be grateful that it isn't every night but it's very frustrating. Can't actually see any link at all between what happens in the day and the nights when this happens; it appears to be totally random. Glad to hear I'm not the only one with this problem; lots of my friends seem to have babies who have slept through from about 8 weeks!

hi SL, how's it going now? let me know. Hope health farm was relaxing - did you sleep all day??
Todmum - isn't it a pain when you think all's going well and then suddenly it isn't and you have no idea why? Ds2 was great for 10 months and then was rubbish. Looking back I think it coincided with him getting really active with cruising and crawling and his problem has been overtiredness. He finally got walking last week and has been totally knackered since. We had a really busy weekend and he didn't get as much daytime sleep as he would have liked, and he woke at 11pm last night and shouted a bit, so the end of our unbroken run, but not too bad. Today he's slept loads so hopefully tonight will be quiet.

oh vivie - the end of the broken run! Lets hope its just a blip and you'll be back on track as from tonight!!

Well things are looking up (hurray!) she slept from 6.30 last night till 12.30 and went back to sleep on my shoulder when I was winding her ......and didn't wake up until 6.30am!!!! Was so chuffed! Hoping its the start of something major and not a one off!!! She was shattered today and ended up in bed at 6.20 so I'm thinking of letting her have a power nap tomorrow late afternoon to try and put her on a bit but so far so good!

health farm was phenomenal! Did NOTHING all day and it was great!! only started to feel guilty on the way home! had the best massage and a lovely facial so even came home with a little glow!!!

Todmum - hope you aren't going down the same route as me! And i agree nothing worse than people whos babies sleep through from more or less day 1!!!!

SL x

Thanks for the support. Here at nearly 5am because ds2 has been awake again since 2.30am. The night before she went to sleep at 7pm, I dream fed her at 11pm and then she went through to 5.20am - hurray - then tonight we're back to the old tricks. She may have finally gone back to sleep, after yelling for 2.5 hours - only picking her up calms her down, then she yells soon as you put her down. Spoke to soon, she's off again! I know I should feel all earth motherly and sympathetic but I just get immediately irritated when I hear her at 2.30am because I know what I'm in for. Glad to hear spa day was so relaxing; I'm still bf and she won't have anything to do with a bottle so...Ho hum. Nothing lasts forever.

Oh Todmum - I so know where you are coming from! After (foolishly!) thinking I had cracked it - last night was a horror!!! I've been up since 5 and for the first time she woke up DD1 so we're all like bears with sore heads! After a feed at 11.30 I was up and down like a yo yo from 1.30 and gave up by 5! Just stuck her in her cot for a sleep and can here her through the floorboards! She looks dreadful and all my lovely relaxing on Sunday is a distant memory!!!

I've got another osteopath appointment on friday (might as well just throw money out the window all the good its doing!) its just whether I can last till then.....

Hope your day goes OK .....is it too early for ANOTHER coffee???

SL x

You poor thing Silverlining! Sounds like your night was more horrendous than mine.

Fortunately dd1 is far enough away not to hear dd2 at night but dd2 is getting bigger and louder so it's only a matter of time! What is it with these babies? dd2 is clearly shattered today so she needs the sleep.
Hope you have some success with the osteopathy, a friend (one whose babies hasn't slept through from the moment they emerged from the womb)swears by it.
And if one more person suggests the contented little baby routine to me you may see headlines in the paper about a deranged homicidal mum on the rampage..
Have some more coffee, and lots of chocolate.
x

SilverLining, I had the same problem with my DD who is now 9 months old. She was waking between 1.30-2.00 every night, not through hunger but habit, I tried the wake to sleep method as suggested by LucyKate. I'm pleased to say it worked a treat. I went into DD 1 hour before she normally stirred and took out her dummy and rubbed her back, this was enough to disturb her, without fully waking her (leaving her in the cot at all times). I then give her the dummy back and she settled back to sleep. I did this for 2 nights before it worked, the book suggests doing it for 3, however 2 nights did the trick. I know what it's like feeling so tired, anything is worth a go. Hope this helps - good luck and sleep tight x

oh you poor loves! I've heard really good things about osteopathy so I hope it does the trick. Have you read 'Solve your child's sleep problem' by Richard Ferber? Even if you disagree with his cc method there's lots of interesting stuff about how babies and children sleep and lots of case studies. Maybe it would give you some ideas? Keep posting and tell us how you're doing. Fingers crossed for tonight.
viv xx

Thanks Vivie and Hywel. Last night was not so bad I suppose (cold light of day everything seems better!!). DH came home late and gave her a dream feed at 10.30 and she went to sleep until 3am and I was in and out to her for another hour and she was finally asleep at around 4.15 till 7. I was awake and couldn't get off but could have been worse ....

I do still go through all the "what am I doing wrong?" "I'm such a bad mum" .....

Caffine I think!!!

SL x

Hope you had a better night SL.
We've had two fairly good nights. Didn't feed her at 11pm and the first night she slept until 2 then last night she was awake at 1 then 4 but, thankfully, went back to sleep.
She had her 2nd lot of injections last Friday and I'm wondering if that could have disturbed her. HV says not but a friend said the same. Anyone else have similar experience?
Hope osteopathy goes well today, SL.