Dd 11 months won't settle after 3pm

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She wakes up before this too but we can settle her again without too much bother. Around 3 she wakes and no matter what I do won't settle until around 6am when I have to get up for work. I have tried co sleeping, feeding her, rocking her. I don't know what else I can do but I can't keep starting my day at 3am, I feel awful.

You might want to change your thread title as 3pm doesn't sound half as bad as 3am! .

Really feel for you especially as you have to get up for work so early.

What are her days like? If she is falling asleep at 6 am what time does she get up? How many naps does she have and for how long? What time does she go to bed?

that's sleep deprivation! She gets up 8ish. Nap at 11 and another at around 3 unless first one is long.

She falls asleep but wakes up after 10 mins crying.

That seems like quite a lot of naps for 11 months. Personally I wouldn't let her have 2 hours between 6 and 8 if she has kept you awake for 3 hours at night, I'd be getting her up at 7 and giving her a feed or milk and then get her ready for the day. Usually around their first birthday they are beginning to cut down to one nap a day and she is having 3.

While she is sleeping in the day she isn't getting any calories which could also add to her night wakings. Have a read of this on reverse cycling.

As for the night waking, have you read this or this?

Seriously though, I would stop her napping for more than an hour at a time during the day. I know from experience though that it can be tempting to let them sleep when you are tired yourself.

Thanks, she is sleeping too much in the day, she just slept for 3 hours! How much sleep should she be having in the day?

Really can't remember sorry, pretty sure it's in the No Cry Sleep Solution though. Maybe your local library will have a copy.

From memory though I think at that age an hour in the morning and an hour in the afternoon would be enough.

Hi nativity my DD is nearly 10 months and after a few months of terrible sleep things seem to be settling down now [hopeful emoticon]

She normally has a 45 min nap in the morning and about an hour/hour and a half in the afternoon. Sometimes she won't bother with the morning sleep and just have a longer pm nap.

It's a really difficult balancing act to make sure they don't sleep too much during the day but sleep enough so they are not overtired and actually sleep worse.

Agree with Jilted, DD gets up the same time (ish) everyday whether we've had a bad night or not, to "reset" her body clock IYSWIM.

I do sympathise though I went back to work last month and it's totally exhausting when they don't sleep well.

Good luck

Agree with Mimmee about resetting their clock, it might be a good idea to get her up at 7, give her some milk, wrap her up and go for a cuppa in the garden so that she gets some sunlight and learns that mornings are for being awake and nights are for sleep, well eventually anyway.....

Right 7am start for us though am in Scotland do might give the garden a miss for now!

It will be tough, but its worth it in the long run. The No Cry Sleep Solution really is good, even if its just to keep you sane.

Good luck for tonight .

We're up. She was awake at 9:30, took me an hour to rock her back to sleep. Then from 2:30 - 4:30. She woke again at 6:40 so got her up. I am on holiday so it's a bit painful!

At that age my DS was sleeping 45 mins around 9:30am and then about 1 hour at about 12:30pm. He was going to bed at 7pm (probably waking once or twice during the night) and getting up at 6am.

I would be trying to push her morning nap to lunchtime and go to just one nap at that age.

My DS is 11m and has one short nap about 9am for 30 mins or so, then does 1.5hrs after lunch. He wakes for a feed at 4.30am but goes back to sleep most of the time (until about 6.30 when we all get up)

Hi Neeps

Sorry to hear your DD is still waking. I just wanted to pop up and say naps might not necessarily be the problem, my DS (11 mo too) has 3 hours of naps and still sleeps through. I would suggest the problem is sleeping late - I'd echo the turning on lights and radio at 7am and making it clear that is 'daytime' and no more sleep till the morning nap at 9 ish.

I'd try anything to stop rocking her for an hour too. Then even if she does wake your evening isn't totally ruined.

It is painful getting up at 6.40 when you're on holiday but at least you'll get to relax when she has a nap .

Talking of which, what's your plan for her naps today?

She had an hour at ten then I got her up, going to try another little nap at 2.

Make sure she's awake by 3.30ish at the latest so she has enough time to get tired for bed later.

At this age I (as a nanny) tend to

7am wake
9am nap (max of 1 hour)
12pm lunch
12.30 nap
3pm if not awake - I wake them
4pm out in the fresh air
5pm tea
6pm bath
7pm bed

Then by 13 months it's usually

7am wake
12pm lunch
12.30 nap
3pm if not awake - I wake them
4pm out in the fresh air
5pm tea
6pm bath
7pm bed

Cinder that sounds pretty much what we did with ours at those ages too .

Ah so my morning nap should be earlier then, I'll try that tomorrow. Thanks for all the advice, I feel much better just having a plan.

She did well until 3, self settled which she doesn't usually do. Been up since then, gave up at 6:30 and got up.

7-5 last night!!!

Wow, that is an improvement .

Fantastic :) Did you do anything differently? :)

Cinder really helpful suggestions. I'm having similar probs with DD. She gets up at 6-7am, naps at 10.30 for about 40mins and about 1-2hrs around 3pm, bed about 7pm.

I'm going to try missing out the am nap and moving the pm one to just after lunch. Fingers crossed!

Named changed from Cinders.

Little Pie - I would suggest that your little ones sleeps are a little to late try bringng them forward. If you are going to cut down to 1 - you may find DD struggles to stay awake until lunch time so bring it forward to 11.30/45 then push it back by 15 minutes every 2 days or so :)