17wk old - Chewing hands and crying most of the night

[Jasmum]

This sounds so obvious I know - must be teething you;d think. well, how long can it go on for. He's not fed inthe night and I'm convinced he's not hungry. Started weaning at 16wks to eliminate this. 5 good milk feeds a day & 2 'meals'. I've given him calpol, medised and it makes no difference. He chews so hard and sucks that it wakes him up. He can cry for 2-3 hours. I've rocked him, patted him, used controlled crying, ignored him, given medicene. I don;t know what to do anymore & I am so tired, feeling depressed and miserable. As his awake int he night for a couple of hours he's tired in the day and I spend most of the time carrying him around and stalling him until his next sleep/feed.
Any words of imspiration or wisdom please?

I really can't keep having this discussion - it's not good for me! LOL!

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'Scuse me but I was 23 when I weaned ds, and lived in a one bed council flat. Just because someone is yung and poor does not make them lazy, thankyou..

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Link to weaning guidelines

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There is a connection between weaning and speech. But it's not as simple as "wean by 4 months or you're stuffed".

Essentially, moving lumpy food around in the mouth helps build up the tongue muscles and competance for speech. I met a speech therapist who was seeing a lot of older kids who only eat purees, and are having speech problems.

Some babies get started on industrial purees, which are very smooth, and refuse to move to lumpy food, or at least struggle with it. (Of course, if you wait until 6 months, and don't do purees, never mind industrial purees, then this isn't a very likely outcome)

Oh, and SLG, that first information you linked to is from the IFIC, which is some weird American "information" group. I couldn't work out who was funding them. They aren't the WHO in any way shape or form.

(I was surprised to see an American group saying 4-6 months, I believe the American Association of Pediatricians or similar says 6 months.)

Here's a page listing some of the organisations that say to wait until 6 months: here .

23 is young, I tell you!!!

Actually, I know a girl who was 16 when she had her daughter, and she breast fed her for over a year.

I do realise this is an exception though.

hi im 19 with 3 kids. 16 when i had ds1 17 when i had dd and 19 when i had ds2 and have always made meals for my kids when weaning. Im not keen on jars or packet baby food as you dont actually know what is in them and i DON'T use to microwave!
I have alot of teenage friends with kids and they also do NOT use the microwave.
Why are people so against teenage parents?
They can cope just aswell as older mums, Infact i know alot of older mums who don't cope at all and ask teenage mums to look after there kids.
So please do not judge all teenage mums- every mum is different.

OMG whats wrong with using the microwave. Christ not another thing that Im supposed to feel guilt about

nothing is wrong with using a microwave im just saying that teenage parents are not lazy and people should have more respect for them instead of looking down on them.

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Norsnockers - I thank god for your balance and (seeming!) sanity.

did anyone suggest Bongela for the original problem?

When my dd wasn't weaned at six months (actually refused solids until 13 months, then ate a pizza), my HV referred my to a panel comprising a speech therapist, psychologist, nutritionist and two physiotherapists. We had to 'prove' she was developing normally. It was so stressful. And she is FINE.

I looked into it and all I could find was that the speech=food association is based on a study done in Bristol about 10 years ago on prem babies who were TUBE-FED and subsequently developed speech problems.

Jasmum, have you seen another poss interesting thread here?

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In case the link doesn't work the question is - Breast and bottle feeding : 16 week growth spurt/fussy phase - how long will it last?

Hi Jasmum

You could try the cozy cocoon, based on the swaddling principle, 100% safe and can be used upto 6 months of age. It has been scientifically proven to aid sleep.
For more info please feel free to email or message me [email protected]
thanks