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17wk old - Chewing hands and crying most of the night

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Jasmum · 22/10/2005 16:24

This sounds so obvious I know - must be teething you;d think. well, how long can it go on for. He's not fed inthe night and I'm convinced he's not hungry. Started weaning at 16wks to eliminate this. 5 good milk feeds a day & 2 'meals'. I've given him calpol, medised and it makes no difference. He chews so hard and sucks that it wakes him up. He can cry for 2-3 hours. I've rocked him, patted him, used controlled crying, ignored him, given medicene. I don;t know what to do anymore & I am so tired, feeling depressed and miserable. As his awake int he night for a couple of hours he's tired in the day and I spend most of the time carrying him around and stalling him until his next sleep/feed.
Any words of imspiration or wisdom please?

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NotQuiteCockney · 22/10/2005 16:27

I'd give milk in the night, I think 17 weeks is a bit early to expect them to go through. You'd probably get more sleep if you gave him milk in the night.

Giving solids doesn't fix teething, and it doesn't fix them being hungry in the night. Not least because all the foods you can give at this age are lower calory than milk.

melsy · 22/10/2005 17:05

whats times his last bottle before bed ? Do you give him a dream feed at 11? I did this right up until 9mths ish.

missycantstop · 22/10/2005 17:30

hi had this pro with my 13 week old and he is teething. Not sure if you are giving solids yet at 13 weeks he is already on 4 solids a day and 4-5 nine oz bottles- he was only 7 11 at birth and now looks 6mths.
try giving baby rice or rusks in a bottle just before you go to bed it works a treat for us, now he sleeps 9.30 tp 5.30. Good luck

missycantstop · 22/10/2005 17:32

could it be poss that your baby wants to be wrapped like a new born? im still having to do that with my 13week old.

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Jasmum · 22/10/2005 17:37

Thanks for the replys...bottle and solids at 6ish, bed by 7ish, wake him at 10.30 for a feed then no more till 7am ish. last night he cried from 2am - 4am. I cuddled him, gave him calpol incase his teeth were hurting. He's not bothered about his 7am feed so am sure it's not hunger and befroe I dropped it he was only taking 2-3ozs. We swaddled from birth,gave up and moved to a sleeping bag after getting up to re-swaddle him 4-5 times a night at about 12 weeks.
He doesn't want to be awake and it's so frustrating when there's nothing he particularly wants.

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NotQuiteCockney · 22/10/2005 17:42

missycantstop, solids before 16 weeks are really dangerous. A baby's gut isn't really ready for solids before six months. And rusks in a bottle can cause choking, as well as obesity.

screwyslittlegoblins · 22/10/2005 17:55

Have you tried giving your baby some cooled boiled water....she may just be thirsty. Though at around 17weeks my two were up all night until I introduced solids

missycantstop · 22/10/2005 18:24

i always completely mash the rusks so there are no lumps before putting it into a bottle. my little girl was put on to solids at 8 weeks on the advise of health pros and this time i have been told to give my youngest solids as he was having 7 oz ever hour sometimes will take 16 hours straight. so i was told he needs solids. he is doing really well he has been on them for 3 weeks now.

missycantstop · 22/10/2005 18:26

didnt mean 16 hours straight meant 16 oz straight

missycantstop · 22/10/2005 18:27

it was only 2 yrs ago you were told to give your child solids at 16 weeks.

NotQuiteCockney · 22/10/2005 19:21

Yes, but the WHO has been saying 6 months for ages.

And health professionals are very random with this - some of them just aren't up to date.

hunkerpumpkin · 22/10/2005 19:33

Teething can go on for months. There are quite a few teeth to come through and IME they can "grumble" their way through - so babies can have painful mouths on and off for months.

Is he constipated? What food are you giving him? Something might be disagreeing with him. Weaning this early isn't recommended by anyone who knows anything about it.

startingtobehalloweenylover · 22/10/2005 19:34

i agree with the others... offer him milk in the night.
he is still very little to be going through... if he doesn't drink it then you'll know it isn't hunger... but surely it's worth a try?

startingtobehalloweenylover · 22/10/2005 19:35

and fwiw my ds has been "teething" for at least 3 months...
dribbly, chewing EVERYTHING... teeth have shown a couple of times then disappeared! grr...

NotQuiteCockney · 22/10/2005 19:41

Tell me about it! DS2 is 12 months, has 6 teeth. We had a lot of teething to get those, and he's been teething, without any new teeth, for at least 4 months.

moondog · 22/10/2005 19:44

Why are people fixated with rammming babies full of food?!!

Poor little sods.

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Jasmum · 22/10/2005 19:52

Thanks for the advice although I must say I am not ramming my baby full of food! I weaned my DD1 at 16 weeks as per the guidelines then - and although it is 6mths now (my HV says 20wks) I am taking it very slowly and discussed with my GP and HV first and more importantly after a great deal of thought.
I think it is important to know all the facts before making comments like that, ie a baby's weight and history before calling babies that are given food before 6 months poor little sods!!

Anyway, many thanks for the advice from everyone.

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moondog · 22/10/2005 19:54

Whatever.
It's still barking.

NotQuiteCockney · 22/10/2005 19:55

I think people are just in a hurry for their babies to grow up, to seem advanced.

hunkerpumpkin · 22/10/2005 19:56

Weight's got nothing to do with gut maturity.

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Jasmum · 22/10/2005 20:00

I disagree, people just want happy contented babies. If that means giving them a bit of baby rice at 4mths is that really so bad? I agree about gut maturity being mprotant but you can only go on the infomationa you are given and if I was advised 16wks for DD1 does that mean her gut wasn't mature enough for the solids? Have I damaged her?
And, moondog I find your comments really unhelpful and antagonistic.

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moondog · 22/10/2005 20:02

Ohhhhhhhhh heeeeeeeere we go......

'Don't come near my thread unless you are only able to offer a veritable plethora of 'huns'
{{{{{{hugs}}}}}} and yes yes yes yes yes you are right.

startingtobehalloweenylover · 22/10/2005 20:05

jasmum has a point you know!

If people are advised by their gp's or health visitors to wean at 4 months or whenever then I think it's unfair to make judgements.
Not EVERYONE knows about the WHO recommendations!

hunkerpumpkin · 22/10/2005 20:08

Jasmum, you are doing what you think is best, as is totally your right.

Other people have offered you information that is based on up to date research and personal experience. Whether or not you choose to take that advice is up to you.

However, if your DS is still not happy and contented, I would hazard that giving him food may not be the best way forward. What happens if you offer him milk if he wakes at night?

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Jasmum · 22/10/2005 20:12

I'm not sure how we got here as I only wanted some advice, I never asked if I was right or wrong. I don't need people to agree with me and offer me hugs or huns (as you put it) but an intelligent response would be nice and a nice healthy debate with a bit of respect for other peoples ways. Your only comment (not even advice) was offensive.

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