14 week old still waking twice in the night...

[Ellieo]

DS goes to bed at 7pm then wakes at approx 1am and 4-5am every night for a feed. Is this normal at 14 weeks? He has done the odd night of only waking once at around 3am, and also a couple of nights where he slept through till 6am. He's mainly breastfed, except for one bottle of formula before he goes to bed at night. He's still quite small, weighing around 12lbs, and has had problems feeding over the last couple of weeks. When can I expect him to drop the night feeds, and has anyone got any advice on how to get him to do this? Or should I just let him do it in his own good time?

tribpot,yes she loves being upright & always has from being tiny.She is happiest when held upright looking over our shoulders,in her seat or even better,the baby bouncer.She hates being cradled & nearly always cries when lying flat,even to be changed.Thats useful,knowing what your HV said about sleeping in car seats-she nearly always nods off in her car seat.

I am going to elevate her cot to see if that helps too-it is sounding more & more like she has reflux.Hopefully the Dr will agree with me & prescribe something for her.

I'm going to carry onsleeping with her in the spare room for a few nights,to see if she continues to improve-then she can stay in her room on her own.I remember that when dd1 went into her own room,her sleeping went from good to great-we were disturbing her & she was disturbing us before.

How is your DS doing now?

Yes, crying when lying flat definitely sounds like reflux to me. Infant Gaviscon is the lifesafer! You can actually buy it over the counter; I did this when I already had my GP appointment so that I'd be able to go and report on whether or not it'd been useful. Rather than go, have the GP prescribe it, try it and find it didn't work and then have to go back, if you see what I mean.

I ran out last week (bit late re-ordering the prescription) and ds was a complete bloody nightmare, I had really forgotten how bad it was. All I could do was carry him around on my shoulder. And that's not so much fun at 14 lb as at 9! (It wasn't a lot of fun at 9, I have to say). But it's not their fault, poor little mites. I used to make sure I only changed ds just before a feed, when there wasn't much to come back up into his throat. (Obviously apart from when he did a massive poo just after a feed, then it'd just be a race to get it done as quickly as possible and get him upright again).

Well, I wasn't going to say, but ds had a very good night. Off at 730, and would normally wake for a feed about 130, which is when dh and I swap over so we both get a period of unbroken sleep (although see my comments in the Snoring thread, I send dh down to the other end of the flat otherwise he keeps me awake anyway!). I woke up at 2, and went next door to relieve dh, expecting ds to wake up any time for his feed. Next thing I knew it was nearly 4. He fed then, 8ozs in a record 15 mins and zonked back out again til 7. Normally he would have been up and ready for action at 530 but I guess 4 was just too close to be bothered waking up again!

My sleep is still pretty rubbish, I was amazed to drop off between 2 and 4. But I'm not quite ready to put ds in his own room as I worry too much about not waking up when he cries. I have no idea why, given every noise made within a 10 mile radius wakes me up!

Mirage, sounds like you may have cracked it . It's interesting what you say about leaving your lo to moan and thrash about. This is what DS does in the night (not during his day naps funnily enough), so after a couple of minutes I usually go in to him. Maybe I'll try just leaving him tonight. I always assume it means he's in pain or unhappy about something, but maybe it's just what he does if he can't sleep... Day naps are never more than 45 mins to an hour - I'd love him to go down for 2 hours in the middle of the day, as I feel it would make him a much happier baby all round, as well as giving me the chance to get stuff done! Yes, he does have a bit of reflux, though it does seem to be getting a bit better now. He was on Infant gaviscon for a couple of weeks, and I still use it every now and again if I think he needs it. I'm really hoping tonight will go a bit better than last night...

Ellieo,I hope you had a better night last night.
Tribpot,your ds sounds like he is going in the right direction sleepwise now.7.30 -4 is fantastic.

We had another good night,she went down happily with no crying & I gave her a dreamfeed at 11pm.She slept through til just before 4,so I was happy about that.She then woke for the day at 7.30.It is strange that if I don't give her a dreamfeed,she will sleep for 7.5 hours straight,but then wakes me twice,but if I do give her it,she will only go 5 hours,but because of the timing it is only 1 night waking.Very odd.I was at a mums & tots group today & a lot of the mums with babies of a similar age had recently gone through the same thing with frequent wakings.

DH is still waking at 2.30am & 5am,even if dd2 isn't.

DD2 did get prescribed infant gaviscon,although the Dr said he didn't think she had reflux, & we tried it tonight.She seemed much happier,no gulping screaming & fighting the bottle & was very good humoured afterwards too.She went up to bed without as murmur again,bless her heart.

We now have a problem at about 2pm.She seems to suddenly get very tired around then & if you don't get her down immediately,will get hysterical.She had her jabs today,so missed her nap & screamed for nearly 2 hours.I managed to calm her down eventually,without resorting to a dummy.Whilst I was trying to calm a screaming dd2,dd1 wee'd on the stairs & came & announced what she'd done to me,pooed on the living room carpet,a foot away from her potty,then shouted to me from the bathroom that she was cleaning her teeth.I rushed in there to find her eating a tube of toothpaste!Argghhh,at that point I just wanted to shut myself in a quiet room away from both of them ,just for 5 minutes quiet on my own.But dd2 followed me around the house asking 'What are you doing mummy?' & then decided it was a good time to play a chasing game & chase me around trying to tickle me.

They are both lovely,but if anyone catches me saying I want another baby,please shoot me!

Sweet dreams everyone

Had a strange couple of nights recently. For some reason ds has started waking an hour after going to sleep (around 8pm) and is very difficult to settle again - night before last it took 2.5 hours! He's never done this before, so I'm at a loss as to why he's started doing it now. The nights themselves have been slightly better - still waking twice, but slightly easier to settle.