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Announcement re deletion of Wig and Robe/Judge Flounce threads

871 replies

carrie (mumsnet) · 13/01/2005 13:15

Dear mumsnetters,

We are now able to shed a bit more light as to what actually occurred re the Wig and Robe/Judge Flounce episode. We are pretty sure (having received a confession of as much) that, as some of you suspected, W&R/JF was a non-lawyer masquerading as a QC. Given this knowledge we have deleted the relevant postings and banned the user from the site.

If nothing else the whole business is a salutary reminder that you can never be completely sure that folks are who they say they are and neither should you necessarily completely trust the advice, especially "professional" advice, posted on mumsnet.

As a result of some concerns raised by you we are looking into making parts of the site, the swaps and weight loss clubs for example, something that operates via mumsnet HQ so that people's addresses are not being circulated. If anyone has any other suggestions then please [email protected] or post them here and we promise to consider them.

We?d also remind folks that when organising meet ups you should take the same precautions you would when meeting anyone from the net - make sure you meet in a public place and that others know where you are going.

Having said all that, it would be a shame if this relatively rare occurrence of someone pretending to be someone they are not changed the warm, supportive, welcoming and caring atmosphere on mumsnet - and we're confident that you won't let it!

Thanks for all the supportive and helpful emails we've received from so many of you.

Carrie, Rachel and Justine

OP posts:
galaxy · 14/01/2005 11:22

The really sad thing is that he is probably still watching all this and pissing himself laughing at what a stir he contunues to cause.

aloha · 14/01/2005 11:23

BTW, Steve Schindler does appear to be a real person as people on the Knowhere site clearly remember him, and his writing style does seem near-identical to JF's...so....

And isn't he LOVELY?

galaxy · 14/01/2005 11:25

Yes, just the sort of guy you'd want to date - not

Blu · 14/01/2005 11:26

yeah, but we're getting fun out of him now, instead of the other way around - so let him piss himself!
And as people have said, MN will be stronger for it.

Blu · 14/01/2005 11:28

Hey Mr Schindler - we're coming to get you....somwehere sometime, on a site you use, you will be taken in by a counter-troll....

(Unless the Jane-now-in-NY character was also made up by him as a red herring....)

FineFigureFio · 14/01/2005 11:30

just a quick question to people who have "seen" him before:

Does he always pose as a lawyer/judge or could he pose as a Dr or someone else?

and OMG! that he has been social services cleared

JanH · 14/01/2005 11:30

Well he said he did, fio...

Bunglie · 14/01/2005 11:31

Now I think you are all being very bad girls. I think that you all should hand over one peice of pasta from your jars!
I agree with Soupy I am afraid, facinating as all this maybe, let us be honest we are never going to know the true story.
We can speculate and yes I am sure that trolls do this for attention etc, but I can not help wonderring if we are not 'feeding' this troll whether 'it' be male or female, by the attention we are giving 'it' and so they could find another site and 'play' at being trolls again. Let us be honest in the last week there have been some pretty hurt people, people feeling stupid and others who have had their 'heads bitten off' for trying to point out the truth.
I dare not say 'Can we drop this' as I would not dream of telling you what to post when or where, but I will be honest and say I am a bit bored of W&R/JF and I just don't want to feed their addiction so they continue 'trolling' (is that a word?) on other sites.....

WigWamBam · 14/01/2005 11:33

No abuse Bunglie - but I'll throw a few hear, hears your way.

Bunglie · 14/01/2005 11:34

Mind you it might be worth a peice of pasta to give him a 'taste of his own medicine' although I do not know how that could be done?????

aloha · 14/01/2005 11:34

Steve Schindler, CBT therapist, is also on the Pontypridd trade association website, with links to the website posted on MN. Now that wasn't done for the sole purpose of trolling on MN, so I think he is real, is the same as the enchanting guy on Knowhere (wouldn't you love to have HIM as your therapist, eh?) and sounds identical to JF - ham rolls, pints of lager and all.
BTW, I doubt very much if a social services certified CBT therapist would enjoy this at all.

JanH · 14/01/2005 11:34

I'm just harking back to skeptic's post at 10.49 re Katherine Phillips and Stephen Schindler in Nottingham in 2003 - the Knowhere one said he'd moved back to South Wales in 2002 - could he be a bigamist?

PicadillyCircus · 14/01/2005 11:35

I bet there's never been a thread this long in site stuff before....and probably won't be again.

FineFigureFio · 14/01/2005 11:36

Oh Jan! stopit!

He is seriously F*** up though

FineFigureFio · 14/01/2005 11:38

and just how stupid was he to give away his home address and whereabouts?

Bunglie · 14/01/2005 11:40

Is it possible that he has been a 'troll' on the knowhere site???

piffle · 14/01/2005 11:57

imagine this..If the guy sounds like such a tosspot, what if he regularly types his name into google as many egotesticles do?
He is gonna see this thread and then what?

tee hee

muminlondon · 14/01/2005 12:02

Is this him ??! or who he'd like to be? and what's Aloha got to do with it??

perhaps I should do some work

muminlondon · 14/01/2005 12:21

sorry aloha, I shouldn't joke when there's so much paranoia about the guy!

Blu · 14/01/2005 12:27

Ok, I feel that morally my pasta jar is now empty, so I will have to stop.
Thank you Bunglie!

Yurtgirl · 14/01/2005 12:59

Message withdrawn

galaxy · 14/01/2005 13:02

lol!

LouBeeLou · 14/01/2005 13:07

I have just had a horrible thought

I might know who W&R is in RL.

Haven't really 'bumped into' her on any posts though - can anyone fill me in on her profile so I can see if I recognise it?

spacedonkey · 14/01/2005 13:08

what makes you think you know him LBL?

jampots · 14/01/2005 13:09

Her name's Jane, married/living with partner Stephen Schindler, 4 kids, one of about 15, twins aged about 12/13 and a little one of about 3. Dh is a psychologist and they live in either Tonypandy or Llandaff