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"boomer" thread

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Maireas · 28/08/2023 20:29

You've hidden this evening's offensive, ageist thread, stereotyping "boomers". Will this be deleted? Can we have a robust response to ageism on MN?

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PencilsInSpace · 28/08/2023 22:04

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 28/08/2023 21:52

Actually racism is allowed to allowed to flow freely on MN. Any mention of the issues that Black and Brown women face is shouted down by The White Supremist faction because these days racists and their facilitators are just as likely to wear heels as hoods. Black and Brown women face all the issues that White women face and more so maybe get your facts right.

You are becoming a parody of yourself.

Maireas · 28/08/2023 22:05

GailBlancheViola · 28/08/2023 22:00

It's long past time for MNHQ to do one of their pinned notices and say they will not tolerate ageism and misogyny. Those who start such threads should be at the very least suspended if not outright banned as should the posters who join in the ageism and misogyny.

I agree.

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Zebedee999 · 28/08/2023 22:09

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/08/2023 20:35

It's getting beyond a joke now. I've got broad shoulders but as an older woman it's depressing AF to see the dislike and sheer vitriol from other women aimed at women like me. We're verging on senile, if not already there, selfish, taking up properties families can make better use of, daring to take the pensions we worked for and according to the meno board, lucky not to have collapsed into a heap of bone dust by the time we're 70. And living too long, of course.

I don't think I've ever seen a site as bad as this for ageism.

Ageism is one aspect. Can you imagine saying you are over 50, voted for Brexit and have voted Tory in the past? The HATE would be unbelievable. People on MN don't seem to be able to respect people having different views and lifestyles etc.
The people spewing this hate for others that don't have their view need to take a hard look at themselves.

PencilsInSpace · 28/08/2023 22:11

I do think it's reflective of other social media this generational divide.

I agree and I think it's got a lot worse since covid.

There was a messed up combination of restricting freedoms for young people in order to 'save granny' while at the same time deliberately mass-discharging older people from hospitals into care homes without bothering to test them. Everyone with a parent in a care home or just their eye on the ball could see exactly what would happen.

So it doesn't surprise me that a lot of younger people have become basically callous about older people either out of resentment or out of self-protection i.e. convincing themselves that what the government did was probably 'a kindness' because what did all those old people have to live for anyway? - the alternative is too horrific to think about.

But blatantly ageist threads do seem to come in waves on this forum and I am suspicious of that. I would like to see MNHQ address it properly.

SpamFrittersYouSay · 28/08/2023 22:13

I was writing my missive on that thread but it wouldn't post. Poooff!
It went.

I'm sick of being branded as a 'boomer.'

We fought so hard for the rights that are now considered 'normal.'

It's just that younger folk think that we've had properties handed to us on a plate ( which most of us haven't) and that our baby care is considered Neanderthal.

Being written off for no reason other than the fact that our babies have lives of their own is hard and pretty unreasonable.

Agism is vile and utterly meaningless.

Plenty of fifty somethings doing nothing , as well as 70 somethings.
However, there are quite a number of younger folk desperate to stay at home, work from home, never leave home, don't want people in their home don't want kids to go to school... a daily occurrence on MN.

There , I've spat it out.

nameitagain · 28/08/2023 22:16

StopStartStop · 28/08/2023 20:54

I missed it! Gutted. 65 and used to all the nonsense from intolerant youth.

You don't see the irony of your comment do you

Katmai · 28/08/2023 22:27

I wonder how many of these unpleasant people on MN realise just who it is they have to thank for equal pay, maternity rights and all the rest of it.

theresnolimits · 28/08/2023 22:29

I nearly commented on that thread but then decided not to engage. It was so offensive.

I’m 65, started work in the 70s. I do wish people would recognise what a struggle it was back then to make a career or be taken seriously. Sexual harassment was common/ totally acceptable. We fought so hard to get to where we are now ~ constantly challenging, working twice as hard as the men and demanding we be taken seriously. So many of the rights women enjoy and take for granted today are due to our efforts.

But now we’re dismissed as bigoted, old, privileged and out of touch. It is such lazy stereotyping.

BellaBellla · 28/08/2023 22:45

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/08/2023 21:10

Are these threads being started by established posters or newcomers, Mumsnet?

I think established. Don't think I saw the thread you're referring to but I stupidly showed up to one over the weekend and there was a poster on there who had clearly name changed because her writing style was so recognisable - been on here a long time turning up on every thread that presents her with the opportunity to have a go at the elderly, whether it's their paid-off mortgages, bed blocking, being kept alive longer than they should (yes seriously!!), not moving out their own homes (because they have one bedroom too many) or accepting a helping hand so they can turn the heating on. It's really shocking to witness tbqh and it's not even casual ageism either, it's very deliberate.

I'm Gen-X but do have elderly parents dealing with numerous health issues (who have spent their lives showing compassion and help towards young people) and I'm genuinely raging at the ageism on here on their behalf. They'd be devastated if they thought so many young women begrudged them their home, their measly fuel allowance and unfortunately at times, hospital bed.

AuntieJoyce · 28/08/2023 22:47

I reported the thread about the fuel allowance. I would be interested in how many other people also reported it and still it carried on.

BellaBellla · 28/08/2023 22:49

@AuntieJoyce I didn't actually report it but probably should have. It was horrible.

UneFoisAuChalet · 28/08/2023 22:49

How can anyone trash the boomer generation?! They’ve seen it all, done it all! Born during or just after the war, their lives have changed so radically from when they were children to now being in their seventies.

I just think of my parents and their stiff catholic upbringing to now not batting an eyelash at gays, unmarried women, children out of wedlock, divorce, credit cards, vacations abroad, immigrants and foreign people, food not from a tin, hummus and feta, to chatting on WhatsApp with their grandkids. FFS. It actually pisses me off. No one gave a shit about their mental health - they were just expected to get on with it. And they did. Sure some haven’t ‘grown’ but the ones I know - family and friends have. Is there any other generation who has has such a large arch?

LakeTiticaca · 28/08/2023 22:54

I was also about to comment as well but couldn't find the thread.
Another common theme on MN is the bitterness towards the baby boomer generation who have inherited the estates of wise parents, as if everything was handed to those wise parents on a plate.
Well no it wasn't actually. Those people scrimped and saved and went without all the things people take for granted nowadays. Its true that many women were SAHMs back then, and many people these days think that supporting a family on one wage was easy. It wasn't.
It was tough. For most low income families there was no mountains of birthday/Christmas presents, no foreign holidays, no centrally heated homes, no cars, no home telephone, no fancy days outs, one school uniform, one set of best clothes, one pair of decent shoes, no takeaways for tea.
That would be considering living in poverty now, back then it was the norm

BIWI · 28/08/2023 22:55

87 posts and still nothing from MNHQ.

I thought that the whole point of Site Stuff was for us to be able to discuss things with MNHQ?

Mrsjayy · 28/08/2023 23:01

This is behind a pay wall

WarOnTheSlugs · 28/08/2023 23:02

Do you want us to pay for your news subscriptions now, as well?

PencilsInSpace · 28/08/2023 23:04

BIWI · 28/08/2023 22:55

87 posts and still nothing from MNHQ.

I thought that the whole point of Site Stuff was for us to be able to discuss things with MNHQ?

TBF it is the last night of a bank holiday weekend.

I'm sure they'll have some answers for us tomorrow when they are all back at work and have had a chance to discuss it.

ToastyCrumpets · 28/08/2023 23:04

WarOnTheSlugs · 28/08/2023 23:02

Do you want us to pay for your news subscriptions now, as well?

No, but it’s a bit pointless linking to something that many people on the thread can’t read

RudsyFarmer · 28/08/2023 23:05

Honestly the ageism on this site is unbelievable. Threads upon threads of the bilge. The other day I was on three of them being shouted down as I dared to support elderly parents having advocacy of their own savings and assets. How very dare I not condone these octogenarians being called cunts.

I hid them in the end.

Mrsjayy · 28/08/2023 23:06

WarOnTheSlugs · 28/08/2023 23:02

Do you want us to pay for your news subscriptions now, as well?

I don't know what you are meaning? I don't want to subscribe to a newspaper to read one article that's madness.

BIWI · 28/08/2023 23:06

@PencilsInSpace Mumsnet is a business. It's not, any longer, a 'round-the-table-in-the-kitchen-in-North-London' thing run by a couple of mums.

There are moderators on duty, I know that as I've had replies today. It's the fact that they're not doing anything about reports that's the issue.

Mrsjayy · 28/08/2023 23:08

Mrsjayy · 28/08/2023 23:06

I don't know what you are meaning? I don't want to subscribe to a newspaper to read one article that's madness.

Which ironically is about privilege.

Furryrug · 28/08/2023 23:15

Do these ageist idiots not realise that without us 'oldies' they wouldn't even exist , we are their parents or grandparents , who have worked and raised them ffs. What do they expect us to do just because we've reached a certain age , jump off a cliff?

TheAverageJoanne · 28/08/2023 23:17

Furryrug · 28/08/2023 23:15

Do these ageist idiots not realise that without us 'oldies' they wouldn't even exist , we are their parents or grandparents , who have worked and raised them ffs. What do they expect us to do just because we've reached a certain age , jump off a cliff?

Interesting to see what these ageist idiots will have to encounter in 30 years' time.

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