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What is this ‘You might also like’ clutter?

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PalatineHill · 15/11/2022 14:07

Hi MNHQ. Please just take it out. Or let me opt out of it? It looks a mess.

If here’s something that I might also like to read, I’ll find it by using the search function.
These suggestions are just encouraging the posting of the same points on multiple similar threads, and that will discourage healthy normal thread death.

It’s really distracting to look at visually, I really liked the uncluttered ‘clean’ MN format compared to other forums.

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BIWI · 17/11/2022 10:09

I think MNHQ aren't commenting because this thread is doing all their UX research for them.

I also agree with @TimBoothseyes - I suspect this will be something that's only removed for Premium users.

CorporateBull · 17/11/2022 10:19

Hard to ‘punish’ the rest of us by having it though when we’re being told it’s there as a useful tool!

LilyMumsnet · 17/11/2022 10:21

Hi all

We're sorry about that. We have removed Black Mumsnetters from the suggested thread feature now.

We're still in the process of tweaking this feature but we are listening to all of your feedback.

MadelineUsher · 17/11/2022 10:21

It's in a stupid position, also, blocking the posting box for replying to the thread one is actually on.

C8H10N4O2 · 17/11/2022 10:23

Zuno · 17/11/2022 10:01

Because you read someone else's thread, come up with questions / curiosity on a point related to it and can see at the bottom the threads associated with it.

You can go look through them. Particularly with topics where the search function can throw up some absolute curve balls...

To which the correct solution is "fix the bloody search function", not add more poorly researched, poorly designed and poorly tested malfunctional features.

Beees · 17/11/2022 10:23

We're still in the process of tweaking this feature but we are listening to all of your feedback.

Im not trying to be rude here but you're clearly not listening as the overwhelming feedback to the feature is to remove it completely.

Whinge · 17/11/2022 10:25

LilyMumsnet · 17/11/2022 10:21

Hi all

We're sorry about that. We have removed Black Mumsnetters from the suggested thread feature now.

We're still in the process of tweaking this feature but we are listening to all of your feedback.

I appreciate it's not just you Lily, but you're not listening. So many people have said get rid of it, but instead MNHQ seem determined to press on regardless.

It's not beneficial or helpful to a site like MN, and no matter how many boards you exclude from the suggested threads it's not going to stop posters being recommended zombie threads or threads that are inapproriate or irrelevant.

saraclara · 17/11/2022 10:26

Seriously, forget the tweaking. Just admit that is a feature that has no positive function on this particular website, and drop it

TheYearOfSmallThings · 17/11/2022 10:30

Im not trying to be rude here but you're clearly not listening as the overwhelming feedback to the feature is to remove it completely.

Have to agree. And changing "You might also like" to "Similar threads" serves only to irritate.

saraclara · 17/11/2022 10:30

There are emotional and difficult past threads on pretty much every branch of this forum. You are not going to be able to prevent distress by just removing a few branches @LilyMumsnet .

I'd be interested to hear what you and others at MNHQ consider valuable about this new feature. Because I can't think of a single positive to it, and lots of negatives. Certainly nothing good that outweighs the possible harm to posters trying to move on from a difficult time in their lives.

Skinnermarink · 17/11/2022 10:30

Why are you still running with it @LilyMumsnet ? Can you explain to us why you are positive it should stay?

unfortunateevents · 17/11/2022 10:32

We're still in the process of tweaking this feature but we are listening to all of your feedback.
@LilyMumsnet if you were listening you would remove the feature completely until you have fixed it - if a fix is actually possible to make this work for the benefit of the site! "Tweaking" is something you do to a flower arrangement that looks a bit lopsided! This drip of removing individual topics from the new feature only when users highlight the inappropriateness of some of the threads suggested is just embarrassing!

TrashyPanda · 17/11/2022 10:35

LilyMumsnet · 17/11/2022 10:21

Hi all

We're sorry about that. We have removed Black Mumsnetters from the suggested thread feature now.

We're still in the process of tweaking this feature but we are listening to all of your feedback.

With respect, MN is definitely notlistening.

the feedback says

do not tweak
get rid of
its useless
its annoying

why is this all being ignored?

why doesn’t this thread appear as a suggestion here www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4679206-to-not-like-this-new-mn-feature?reply=121593388

why do the Site Stuff topics not have the YMAL feature?

unfortunateevents · 17/11/2022 10:36

@LilyMumsnet oh but while you are tweaking maybe you could lock some of the old threads which are now occupying several of the trending spaces this morning? There is a thread about a lunch which happened in September and which people are still posting on, despite it having been pointed out several times this morning that it is a zombie. I have to admit, it doesn't paint posters in a particularly good light either - they have obviously only bothered to read the initial post and weighed in with their response.

ValerieDoonican · 17/11/2022 10:42

I wonder if we should start reporting any zombie threads -and especially, any appearing in trending or This Dreadful Feature - to MN, so they get as annoyed by them as we do? (Or would that get us banned??)

MissMarpleRocks · 17/11/2022 10:48

unfortunateevents · 17/11/2022 10:36

@LilyMumsnet oh but while you are tweaking maybe you could lock some of the old threads which are now occupying several of the trending spaces this morning? There is a thread about a lunch which happened in September and which people are still posting on, despite it having been pointed out several times this morning that it is a zombie. I have to admit, it doesn't paint posters in a particularly good light either - they have obviously only bothered to read the initial post and weighed in with their response.

I realised it was from September about half way through. I finished I posted & asked if op had gone. As well as I saying another annoying resurrected thread as some posters were annoyed it was a zombie thread.

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 17/11/2022 10:50

Well clearly you aren’t listening at all are you?

Hoppinggreen · 17/11/2022 10:57

Stop tweaking and start removing @LilyMumsnet

ZeroFuchsGiven · 17/11/2022 10:58

Hoppinggreen · 17/11/2022 10:57

Stop tweaking and start removing @LilyMumsnet

I read that as stop twerking 😂

Hoppinggreen · 17/11/2022 11:00

ZeroFuchsGiven · 17/11/2022 10:58

I read that as stop twerking 😂

Well that too
If fact @LilyMumsnet
Do nothing before scrapping the whole shit idea - then twerk to your heart’s content !!

TrashyPanda · 17/11/2022 11:06

unfortunateevents · 17/11/2022 10:36

@LilyMumsnet oh but while you are tweaking maybe you could lock some of the old threads which are now occupying several of the trending spaces this morning? There is a thread about a lunch which happened in September and which people are still posting on, despite it having been pointed out several times this morning that it is a zombie. I have to admit, it doesn't paint posters in a particularly good light either - they have obviously only bothered to read the initial post and weighed in with their response.

That thread currently has 117 posts.

27 of these were posted today

DappledThings · 17/11/2022 11:07

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 17/11/2022 10:50

Well clearly you aren’t listening at all are you?

Not in the least. Or if they are they clearly have no intention of acting on any of the feedback that overwhelmingly says GET RID OF IT.

Or even answering the questions on why it was introduced, what testing if any it went through and why they aren't considering removing it.

It has happened once that I recall that a new "feature" was so hated it was removed and that was the skim links a year or so ago. So I have a teeny hope they might actually roll this back too.

MissMarpleRocks · 17/11/2022 11:07

Out of interest why isn’t MN listening @LilyMumsnet

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 17/11/2022 11:10

I find it distressing. I do look at quite a lot of political stuff and when I am dealing with things on one thread I don't want to have more of it pushed at me from old threads. The titles tend to be quite anxiety-provoking. To be fair the old threads can be informative and I would be happy to have a "see similar" button, but I really don't want the list of titles pushed at me.

PalatineHill · 17/11/2022 11:33

Thanks for coming back LilyMumsnet. I think most regular posters want the site to be the best and most used it can be, so saying all this with love…

As others have said, the other points raised here on the thread won’t be fixed by taking YMAL off specific threads, unfortunately. Hence most people asking for the feature to be removed entirely. Hopefully that option is still on the table?

As PP have said, MN is in quite a unusual
position with the user relationships to its site, which is a strength to hang on to. A more visible and collaborative approach to UX with existing users would be really great, however informal or formal and organised you’d want that to be. (I’ll leave the tricky question of paid/unpaid feedback aside for now!).

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