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Can energy/COL topics become like covid topics please

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MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/08/2022 09:21

@MNHQ

I've already been called a snowflake for objecting to a flippant post about small business going to the wall, so no doubt this will be thrown at me again but can the endless energy threads/general cost of living threads all live in their own topic page which is already set up?

This isn't burying head in the sand but just means that people can continue to get light relief from MN (and fuck me it is needed) and then only read the COL threads when they choose.

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O11 · 27/08/2022 10:30

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/08/2022 10:13

If MNHQ start moving everything over to the cost of living topic, then every thread that even remotely touches on those issues will get derailed

On the whole it worked for Covid, threads that were remotely about covid stayed on a general board, threads that said exactly the same thing on repeat were moved over.

quite upsetting for posters who are understandably concerned about how the energy price hikes are going to affect them.

But this works both ways, seeing endless doom (not scaremongering, but it is doom) Can be upsetting for those that know they are heading up shit creek without a paddle and just want some space away from it.

If you want some space away from it, then I recommend branching out from Chat and AIBU and seeing what else MN has on offer. There are boards covering everything.

Anothernamechangeplease · 27/08/2022 10:32

O11 · 27/08/2022 10:30

If you want some space away from it, then I recommend branching out from Chat and AIBU and seeing what else MN has on offer. There are boards covering everything.

Or just get off the Internet.

It's ridiculous to try to control what other people talk about just because you want a break from it.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/08/2022 10:32

SpindleInTheWind · 27/08/2022 10:27

I very much like @OhYouBadBadKitten's idea of a 'topic of the week'. There are some fascinating boards on here that I read a lot, like Weather and Preppers. And Feminism, History Club and Chronic Pain. There's a tremendous variety of stuff.

Now that BadKitten is an excellent idea.

In slower news times it can highlight quieter topics like Spindle says above and in times of dominant news they can highlight COL/Storms etc

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 27/08/2022 10:34

I agree - I don't think a dozen threads expressing the same anxieties need to be on the front page.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/08/2022 10:36

Anothernamechangeplease · 27/08/2022 10:32

Or just get off the Internet.

It's ridiculous to try to control what other people talk about just because you want a break from it.

My desire to have it in topics is no different to your desire to have it every where. I am not trying to control MN let alone the Internet I have just posted, on sitestuff, a suggestion for the powers that be. It is up to them if my request is approved or denied.

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ApolloandDaphne · 27/08/2022 10:36

@O11 That is all very well but I suspect many people like myself don't use specific boards but use active threads to see what the most recent threads are and many of these are now by people asking about their energy bills or how to keep warm. You could argue that these people could search for one of the myriad threads on these topics. There may not be one good resolution to this but directing people to a specific topic relating to these issues might be a good start and easy for those who are concerned to see discussions and solutions in one place.

Anothernamechangeplease · 27/08/2022 10:37

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/08/2022 10:32

Now that BadKitten is an excellent idea.

In slower news times it can highlight quieter topics like Spindle says above and in times of dominant news they can highlight COL/Storms etc

There is already an "in the news" topic. It's much quieter than AIBU or Chat. People seem to prefer the general topic boards.

Anothernamechangeplease · 27/08/2022 10:39

There are lots of threads on energy at the moment because there are lots of users who want to talk about it. The number of threads will die down when people feel the need to talk about it less.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/08/2022 10:39

Another as they are not promoted enough, a post that is in trending would generate traffic.

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MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/08/2022 10:40

The number of threads will die down when people feel the need to talk about it less.

Unlike a bad storm the energy crisis is much like covid, it will be long and protracted.

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Anothernamechangeplease · 27/08/2022 10:44

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/08/2022 10:40

The number of threads will die down when people feel the need to talk about it less.

Unlike a bad storm the energy crisis is much like covid, it will be long and protracted.

All the more reason to make it easy for people to talk about it then.

O11 · 27/08/2022 10:48

ApolloandDaphne · 27/08/2022 10:36

@O11 That is all very well but I suspect many people like myself don't use specific boards but use active threads to see what the most recent threads are and many of these are now by people asking about their energy bills or how to keep warm. You could argue that these people could search for one of the myriad threads on these topics. There may not be one good resolution to this but directing people to a specific topic relating to these issues might be a good start and easy for those who are concerned to see discussions and solutions in one place.

Change the way you use MN then if just relying on active threads isn't working for you right now. Start checking out specific boards that relate to your interests, you'll find a few to cycle through and unless it's something really obscure there will always be active conversations. Don't expect MN to change for you.

Antarcticant · 27/08/2022 11:00

chillipenguin · 27/08/2022 10:15

Ah ok. That suggests there probably won't be much demand for a cost of living free zone then.

I think there are probably enough 'niche' topics that will be intrinsically free of current affairs discussions for people not to need a dedicated 'non-topic'.

It's more a case of people being able to hide those discussions if they want to, without having to hide the whole of AIBU and Chat - so I would support them being moved to the 'Cost of Living' topic.

ApolloandDaphne · 27/08/2022 11:07

@O11 I don't expect MN to change for me. I use it as it is set up to be used. There i no one topic that interests me so this was I get a breadth of topics. How we that breadth is becoming increasingly just COL type threads and although they are important to those who need them, they are not what everyone necessarily wants to see.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 27/08/2022 11:22

Anothernamechangeplease · 27/08/2022 10:37

There is already an "in the news" topic. It's much quieter than AIBU or Chat. People seem to prefer the general topic boards.

Using 'in the news' would not be appropriate for topics that always exist.

Inklingpot · 27/08/2022 11:23

This gets raised every time there’s a big topic in the news. I actually agree that threads should be moved to the eleventy million relevant topics but to keep asking MNHQ to do it is literally banging your head against a wall because they will totally ignore it.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 27/08/2022 11:25

Ive noticed that people who are trying to use appropriate topics dont know whether to put it into COL or Money Matters.

BarryK3nt · 27/08/2022 11:34

I agree, posters are working themselves and others up into terrible states, it’s not helping anyone.
Theres no need to derail threads by ‘policing’ them and telling the OP it’s in the wrong section, just report the thread to MNHQ and ask for it to be moved.

Xiaoxiong · 27/08/2022 11:59

I like OYBBK's topic idea. I have been around these parts long enough to remember the creation of the Credit Crunch board, that is the perfect one to pin to the top of Chat and AIBU at the moment!

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 27/08/2022 12:46

Hello @MrsRobinsonsHandprints thanks for your suggestions.

When an issue is dominating the news and is having such far-reaching effects into people's lives, then we expect to see a lot of threads in Active discussions reflecting that. Moving them all to one area now seems counter-productive, given that it's clear people want to discuss what's happening.

As time goes on, we'll look to move threads to Cost of Living where appropriate. We know that stressful news is impactful - we saw this with Covid and we certainly don't want a situation where MNers are negatively affected by dozens of threads all about the same thing.

In the meantime, please hide any threads you don't want to see.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 27/08/2022 13:04

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet what about my idea of pinning Topics as a 'Topic of the Week' to the top of the page?

tigger1001 · 27/08/2022 13:34

O11 · 27/08/2022 09:35

Hi MNHQ, I couldn't disagree more with this. This is a huge issue for people and it would be completely wrong to police where and how they discuss it.

Perhaps instead, a new board could be set up for posters like the OP where current affairs are banned?

I agree.

Even if there was a separate board people will still start threads where they like and then mods time is used by having to move them

tigger1001 · 27/08/2022 13:40

"You might think the covid boards worked well. I disagree, it was intensely irritating to see posters constantly getting jumped on for posting in the "wrong" place."

Completely agree with this. The thread was then completely derailed by the whole "there is a board for this topic" type posts.

Surely it's easy to scroll past a thread that doesn't interest? Surely we all do that every time we log on here?

verdantverdure · 27/08/2022 14:18

O11 · 27/08/2022 09:35

Hi MNHQ, I couldn't disagree more with this. This is a huge issue for people and it would be completely wrong to police where and how they discuss it.

Perhaps instead, a new board could be set up for posters like the OP where current affairs are banned?

I agree. Ban cost of living posts from Chat and have a Holiday From Reality board for those who want to police how Mumsnetters express their concerns.

I'd be perfectly happy not to have to see established facts described as scaremongering by the deluded.

verdantverdure · 27/08/2022 14:21

BarryK3nt · 27/08/2022 11:34

I agree, posters are working themselves and others up into terrible states, it’s not helping anyone.
Theres no need to derail threads by ‘policing’ them and telling the OP it’s in the wrong section, just report the thread to MNHQ and ask for it to be moved.

Not a big free speech fan then?

Just remove posts about energy bills or the cost of living?

Cos if we don't talk about it, it's not happening?