Style & Beauty

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Style and Beauty seems to be really divisive. It seems there is hard core of well-off luxury designer wear afficionados, who don't really welcome anyone talking about affordable high street fashion and the like. Should S&B be divided into two sections? 'Exclusive/Luxury Style and Beauty' and a separate section for talking about clothes and makeup in a more relaxed and inclusive way?

Hi OP

We think about extending topics when there is a high demand for it - that way, we know something will get used (we've had to unclog lots of extra topics in the past).

We'll keep an eye on your thread and if lots of people feel the same way, we'll certainly consider it!

Thank you

Well it's up to MNHQ I guess but, as they say they're going to keep an eye on this thread, I would like to register my strong disagreement with splitting up S&B.
I don't normally have a high end budget but I still like to look at a full range of stuff.
I think the current focus on comfort is very much a sign of the times.

I like that the S&B board is varied, with posters who have diverse views on fashion.

BUT, there was a thread recently on the S&B board where a number of hard core fashion enthusiasts expressed their dissapointment that brands and topics they didn't consider stylish enough, were taking over the board.

There were many posters who disagreed that it was a problem, but also a number who agreed with the op.

I personally felt the thread was a borderline TAAT, as it mentioned in a disparaging way, another thread which is running on the S&B board.

If a separate board for more luxurious fashion was set up and would prevent people from lurking around the S&B board and passing judgement on other posters, then I would definitely be or it.

However, I would like to think there is room for everyone. But maybe not, based on that thread which a few people found a bit off-putting. One poster said the thread made her feel unwelcome on the S&B board and that is a real shame.

So, in brief, I would support this, if it prevented this sort of division which is unpleasant.

Possibly a clothes, make up and skin care board with a separate fashion board would work.

I'm a long time lurker on S&B and I've honestly never noticed this! And that's not because I fall into the well-off designer group, because I definitely don't. Perhaps I've missed a controversial thread but in the main it strikes me as a very welcoming board.

Terrible idea, if people are unhappy they're not seeing the threads they'd like to see more of then they just need to start those. More division is the last thing we need, catering to everyone's specific niches endlessly will just end up with lots of inactive boards, it would probably see me going elsewhere, the S&B has already been a lot less active than it used to be, it would just further accelerate the decline.

The only thing I think is worth considering creating a separate board for from S&B is injectables and plastic surgery as it's quite specific especially when it gets into health issues, etc. It probably would have to be a bit like some other special boards that only posters with a proven track record can post as it's likely to attract a lot of spam.

the S&B has already been a lot less active than it used to be, it would just further accelerate the decline.

@CanOfLilt

I'm a long time lurker on S&B and I've honestly never noticed this! And that's not because I fall into the well-off designer group, because I definitely don't. Perhaps I've missed a controversial thread but in the main it strikes me as a very welcoming board.

No, I like the board the way it is too. It was a bunch of other posters who said they didn't like it now as it wasn't stylish enough. Funnily enough they are now the ones saying the idea of changing the board is a bad idea. You cannot win with some people.

Accidental post there - apologies.

I just wonder how many people have ventured onto S&B once or twice, posted a comment or started a thread, then realised they don't feel welcome, and left again. It can happen if people 'Start a thread on what interests you'. That's why I for one would feel more comfortable with a more down-to-earth section, and to me that is more inclusive as there's a space for everyone.

I've mentioned this thread on S&B, but those who didn't feel welcome there wouldn't see that, so might not see this discussion.

I like the mix as it always have been. More expensive and designer items can be an inspiration. Like many others my wardrobe is a mix of high street, vintage and the odd designer splurge ( often preloved). I would hate threads that police the recommendations. Most people that ask for recommendations specify a budget, so that usually sets the tone.

I wouldn't really like to see a split. I'm not in the high end bracket but I enjoy the diversity of posts as long as people don't get nasty.
I think as suggested upthread a separate surgery/fillers thing might be good? That's largely down to my own dislike of posters recommending Botox Willy nilly as if it's as harmless as a lippy, especially when someone has already stated they don't want that type of beauty product.

I buy second hand designer e.g. Margaret Howell for £30-£50.
Where would I go to post about that?

No to separate sections. The variety is in the different threads. It's perfectly possible to start a thread within current S&B that is focused on more exclusive fashion.

Where does this end? A separate AIBU for posters who don't like arguments?

I don’t think that thread was even about designer clothing! It was about fashion, which comes at different price points and you can get something very on-trend in Primark. Unless the trend in question is sustainable fashion, in which case maybe not. The OP wasn’t saying she wanted to discuss expensive and exclusive clothing at all, just that she wanted a place to discuss what was fashionable and what wasn’t.

I don’t think it should split.

But if posters are looking for a type of thread, start one. I get it’s a shame if a group feels they’ve not met a standard though. I still don’t want it split though (not that I’m on S&B that much atm). I like links from more designer sites I like as well as people feeling it can be anything else.

But overall no thanks to split.

I don't think someone who hadn't visited S&B for years and comes on to moan that it's now not fashionable enough for her tastes should be the cause of splitting the board up. It's nice to see different lifestyle choices even if I can't afford them!

I do agree about having an injectables board.

I've posted on the other thread, but just wanted to say, please don't split things up. I rarely post on S&B, but it's the range and hit and miss aspect of it that makes it what it is. If people want to start a thread on what they perceive to be stylish, they can do it and attract like-minded people. It happened with the Hush threads - no reason why it can't be done for other shared tastes.

Criticising the current nature of S&B when people have been locked down, focusing on other issues, WFH and unable to attend events is unfair, IMO. Sure, it's a bit dull right now, but so is much of life during a global pandemic. When things open up, so will S&B.

not in favour of this sorry.

Not in favour of splitting the board

No. I post sometimes and read a lot.
Sometimes I open a thread and it's talking about really expensive bags, but just as likely it's is someone being recommended sainsburys leggings.
I enjoy the mixture.

And the discussion about Stitchfix and Lookierio ( which you can set to your budget), where does this fit? Inclusive means high end and lower price stuff.

Not in favour of a split.

I would be in favour of separating the 'Beauty' from the 'Style' though.

I'm not in favour of a split either. I like the mix.

Another vote for no split. The mix is sort of the point. People just need to engage more to get a more varied selection of posts and opinions. It’s usually a good place for robust opinions from people who know fashion and clothes and don’t just go “oh you look lovely hun”.