Can we have an Asian and ethnic minorities board please?

[KenAdams]

I thought we were included on the Black board but I've been told in no uncertain terms its not for us so could we have an Asian and ethnic minority board please? Global majority is also fine. No one is excluded, everyone can post on it but it will be easier to note those posts that have a particular cultural element to them.

@Kaiserin do you not feel that the current provisions are suitable for you to discuss white parenting, food, hair etc. with other white posters?

Home2018

It's why I suggested starting new threads - apart from this one.
Those of us who do want to see new sections can post from positive perspectives. Garner viewpoints.

@Home2018

What's betting OP isn't actually bothered about having her own space.

What's betting OP isn't even 'Asian'.....

doesn't matter, other people of the same demographic are also discussing this.

@Gingaaarghpussy they are but it's quickly become a bunfight. The opening post was so vague and laced with snide sentiment that I don't think it had a chance of going well, personally. It's definitely not created a positive discussion about new space(s) for interested minorities.

Yesterday there was a thread on this. Perfectly nice. It was taken down because of the 'fuck off' comments very quickly.

It should be possible to ask nicely instead of screaming the boards down to get a new section.

@giantangryrooster the screaming tends to start after the fuck off comments. The OPs tend to be quite matter of fact about their requests, and then people start shouting about segregation and it all gets derailed.

As before, if the OP could state why she wants a separate board as black posters did over and over again, then I would wholeheartedly support that.

If it helps her feel safer and more visible then absolutely.

Ginkypig
Everyone involved also clearly stated that no one was excluded as long as you used the board for the reasons it was intended.

Just like you wouldn't go on the fish board and start talking about your child's exams so the same logic applies to black mumsnetters board.

Yes, but it's intended to talk about things from black peoples experiences. So although we're welcome to use it we're not welcome to go and post on it talking about things from an Indian experience. That's why we're asking for our own board. So we can talk about things from the Indian perspective.

Yes I completely agree @OhReallyThen I already stated on this thread it's is a great idea to have a new board. id very much welcome it and use it when the main boards wouldn't work.

This thread is actually about your idea for a specific Indian sub section though so it would be great if you started a thread asking for one as obviously the op of this thread hasn't specified that and no one would want her request to be missed.

The post you quoted was one I posted later on this thread (after I had already agreed about a new board being a great idea) specifically talking about the idea that others aren't welcome on the black board when that is untrue. But it has obviously highlighted the need for a separate board/s to offer other users the same opportunity to have a space.

Isn't not is*

As a mixed race woman (Indian) I would be particularly excited about your new board @OhReallyThen

I could be wrong but my understanding was that the OP of the black mumsnet board made the point that the board was for issues directly impacting them.

So for example if a welsh person posted a question about welsh schools in scotsnet they would be advised it was the wrong board. Same as if a white person posted about something relating to, for example, white skincare, in the new BM board.

However if the white person posted with a question or topic relating to black mumsnetters that would be absolutely fine and welcomed.

@OhReallyThen
Because white people decided that for thousands of years those of us who were 'different colours' were sub human and treated us as such. And some of those attitudes and institutions still overhang into modern day so sometimes we need a space to get away from all the discrimination.

I am not white, but I do have plenty of white friends. I have also had a number of racist experiences and discrimination over the years due to my skin colour.
That said I don't blame the current white population for the way things are (except the ones who are racist obviously) . The benefits they may enjoy are not their fault and I think by making them feel guilty or shutting down any comment they may have is both unreasonable and likely to cause more friction.
Should I feel bad that I am in a much more fortunate position then others who probably deserve it more, not really- I am just thankfully. Do I feel I should do more to help and promote others yes I do, and do try in my everyday life.
Would it help if I was berated, accused and made to feel guilty. Definitely not. Sins of the fathers should not be passed to the sons.

There is a world of difference between sharing experiences to help enlighten and cause change and making ppl feel guilty for actions and situations they had no part in.

I thought we were included on the Black board but I've been told in no uncertain terms its not for us so could we have an Asian and ethnic minority board please?

If you define yourself as Asian why would you think a board for black mumsnetters is targeting you.

Ffs. Every single time someone has to make up things that didn't happen.

We're both fighting similar battles. You don't need to make snide remarks about our board to request your own. Sigh

[quote KenAdams]@DysonDiva another poster the one who created the Black board.[/quote]
No I fucking didn't.

Just please stop positing that we have excluded other races when we haven’t. It’s becoming very tedious and boring and anybody with five minutes to spare can disprove it anyway.

What she said.

@yourestandingonmyneck

Hold on, in what context were you told that it's "not for you"?

I was aware that the Black board was being created, but that sounds a bit harsh towards the OP does it not? Should this not be looked into a bit more? OP, could you have misunderstood?

Thank you.

It's not even a misunderstanding. It's an outright lie.

@icedaisy

I could be wrong but my understanding was that the OP of the black mumsnet board made the point that the board was for issues directly impacting them.

So for example if a welsh person posted a question about welsh schools in scotsnet they would be advised it was the wrong board. Same as if a white person posted about something relating to, for example, white skincare, in the new BM board.

However if the white person posted with a question or topic relating to black mumsnetters that would be absolutely fine and welcomed.

Thank you!

@Home2018

OP hasn't even mentioned the context in which she was told she couldn't post. I'm sure this thread was created to cause conflict.

I believe there is a white mother over there who posted about her mixed sons hair. She doesn't seem to have been told to leave yet.

Have those in uproar seen the board. Have they wanted to partake in any posts about but felt they couldn't?

What do other 'BAME' (by race) posters think? Do you have an issue with the black board? Do you feel that Mumsnet should take it down, or rather, create one for you? Alternatively, do you think black people are wrong for wanting their own spaces, especially in light of BLM, institutional racism and anti-blackness?

How much of a BAME voice is even included in all of this uproar? Except for the probably fake, non BAME OP.

Exactly. Exactly.

Why would you start a request by making up lies and snide remarks?

I'm starting to think people are being obtuse on purpose.
For those hard of thinking or those at the back
Yet once again......
It was said that white people or anyone not welcome who are going to be goady bollocks or memememememe
Not that can't post at all.

Anyway, where did the OP go?
Hasn't really said why/what they want, just plopped and ran after a load of digs

Yes go for it. I don't see any reason why any group should not have their own board. Dadsnet, Gransnet, Scotsnet, Craicnet all just of more interest to those in the category. It doesn't harm the rest in any way at all.

*As per the host of subsequent responses, I'm concerned that your post has just been used as way to encourage more hostility toward that Black board.

What did/do you want to post that you think you're unable to in the main section, or what did you want to post in the black section that you were told you couldn't?*

And why is it you only want a board after you see a post about a black board?

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yourestandingonmyneck

Hold on, in what context were you told that it's "not for you"?

I was aware that the Black board was being created, but that sounds a bit harsh towards the OP does it not? Should this not be looked into a bit more? OP, could you have misunderstood?

Thank you.

It's not even a misunderstanding. It's an outright lie.

Of course it is...