We don't allow threads like this

[JaneJeffer]

Since when did this rule happen?

Ridiculous MN!

Actively suicidal posters with a plan have always been deleted. That’s absolutely right and it’s what mental health charities and professionals recommend. It’s for the good of the poster.

I didn’t see all the thread, but I assume that must have happened here.

She didn't have any plan. She just needed someone to talk to. There are similar threads in the MH topic which were allowed to stand.

She specifically said in her OP that she had tried unsuccessfully to contact samaritans. I really hope she went home, poor woman.

That's been the rule for ages.

But there was no reason to delete it so I'm not sure what "rule" this applied to. Nothing she said was wrong

They've deleted the calling out post so I'm sure this one will go soon!

Another thread about this has been deleted.

Shame on you, @MNHQ

If this thread stays general, it could stand.

It’s always been the rule as long as I can remember.

There's no reason someone should get their thread deleted just for saying they were trying to call the samaritans

I understand that they may be under guidance from mental health charities but to say “phone the samaratins” when that’s the whole point of the thread is absolutely disgusting at best and at worst highly damaging! Poor woman I sincerely hope she is ok and @mnhq have a LOT of explaining to do for this! I really hope they get in contact with the op of the initial thread to apologise and actually HELP her!!

That won’t have been it blue, there were other very concerning things about that thread. Loads of posters talk about trying to call the Samaritans, or their experiences of having called them.

MN autoresponse to OP so idiotic it was properly cruel.

At least we hope that Samaritans throwaway remark was autoresponse. Or at any rate, we hope whoever deals with these threads has suddenly got the chance to retrain.

Monitors make mistakes - nowhere is that better known than MN - but this one is not ok.

The thread title was probably the main issue.

She even said she'd tried emailing them too and hadn't got a reply :(

It really wasn't an unusual situation for a woman with PND and a young baby to be in, unfortunately. We should be allowed to talk to each other.

I believe s small amount of sensitivity training is needed by some mods. I have been in that womans place and it would have distroyed me to be so rudely silenced.

Yes, but there’s a line that can’t be crossed for everybody’s good, especially the poster’s.

I was so upset when I saw that deletion message. This was not someone discussing an active suicide plan.

Someone feeling really down felt 'rejected' by not being able to access help from Samaritans. Came on here, trying to seek help instead....rejection again....along with a note for them to contact the samaritans.

It just seemed incredibly cruel to me.

I am reporting my own post in the hope that mumsnet HQ might please read it in the morning.

@PurpleDaisies

It wouldn't have done her any good at all. She was most likely extremely hurt and upset.

Poor thing :(

PurpleDaisies, she har no plan, was feeling isolated and reached out for words of support. She was shut down with directions to contact the people she feels shut off from. Logical or not it is cruel and insensitive.

I agree with mumsnet on this one. Half the time they turn out to be trolling. People wear themselves out supporting somebody else, who may or may not be genuine, posters are not equipped to deal with a suicidal poster and that's if the poster is genuine, if the poster is not genuine, the posters trying to support deplete their own resources. And feel duped and jaded if it turns out to be a troll. If the suicidal person doesn't come back, how does anybody know if they went ahead or not.

JUST WAY TOO MUCH

Good call Mumsnet.

I don’t know that I agree with “no plan”. From what I read of the thread (and won’t repeat here because it’s triggering) there were pretty clear intentions.

She wasn't rudely silenced. I thought the reply was quite compassionate but this poster needs professional help not mums net.