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Is mumsnet going crazy or something?

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fio2 · 29/09/2004 09:10

I am fed up everyday of logging on to troll posts. cant something be done to stop this

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lou33 · 29/09/2004 17:54

I love everyone Fio .

Still think it's better to email mn though, seeing as they are the ones who have to implement all these suggestions.

codswallop · 29/09/2004 17:55

oh lou
how I agree with all you say
I ma bored of this endless navel gazing.

NOW bakc to impoortant issues like my hoover

GeorginaA · 29/09/2004 17:56

Surely we can discuss then email once we've come up with something fairly concrete?

Had another idea. Perhaps mods could have the power to "suspend" users for a number of hours. That way we could all beg the mods to kick us off until later on in the day so we can actually get something constructive done

fio2 · 29/09/2004 17:57

I like your new pic btw lou

what ios navel gazing? i dont buy trashy mags

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fio2 · 29/09/2004 17:58

georgina you should train to be a teacher

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GeorginaA · 29/09/2004 18:00

Been there, done that, quit the PGCE by Christmas

lou33 · 29/09/2004 18:05

That could be dangerous Georgina, but oh so tempting

Am off to crack my whip at dd1 so she finishes the kitchen quickly, so I can cook dinner and bake brownies. She made some lovely rock cakes today at school btw.

pixiefish · 29/09/2004 18:13

If we dislike the posts why don't we stop posting on them- lou and coddy both drew lines on the thread today and yet we carried on posting- sorry to be contentious but we know that lou and coddy are mods... if we don't know then we can look at the list of mods- coddy's there. Anyway which list is this one that you're all going on about with the subs??

lou33 · 29/09/2004 18:15

I'm there too you know, she wailed.

Seriously i think justine, rachel and carrie would prefer certain topics to just die a death.

pixiefish · 29/09/2004 18:17

sorry lou- didn't realise- was looking for your user name- love the hat btw

lou33 · 29/09/2004 18:18

Hides me well doesnt it?

pixiefish · 29/09/2004 18:22

no- i love it. anyway i do try and stop posting on things as i realise that's the best way to stop it... get fairly peed when i see everybody else feeding it though... that's what living in a democracy is i spose... i do think you should have more things that you can do- question is what- or at least that people should listen to you when you ask us to do something... sorry i sound really 'holier than thou' i'm not really... just a stickler for rules and things... comes of being a teacher i spose...

Justine (mumsnet) · 29/09/2004 18:56

Thanks for all the constructive ideas. We take on board your points and promise to give them full consideration at our next meeting. We are a bit wary, though, at mumsnet hq of too much intervention. For one, whether a thread is deleted or not can begin to dominate the conversation. Secondly, mumsnet is in fact wonderfully "self-policing". More often than not a banal or silly comment (by a troll or otherwise) unleashes a whole rash of postings full of sane, sensible, advice that can make people (even sometimes the orginal poster) really think and see things differently. In our experience discussion (so long as no one's being personally attacked) is a good thing and we want to encourage it - quite apart from anything else it's fairly hard to know where to draw the line if you take an aggressive stance on moderating. One member's humour can often be taken the wrong way and seen as offensive by another. Our broad guidelines are these: we will not tolerate personal or racist attacks but people must be allowed contrary and controversial views - or discussion will die. We ask people to respect others opinions and to be supportive on our talk home page. Inevitably posters won't always follow this request and can be a bit brusque or tactless but we don't feel this warrants censorship.

Yes some threads get very heated: SAHM v working mums is always liable to be sparky, GF routines v demand feeders the same and then there's grapes in the supermarket - twas ever thus really. We've had a few one-off type blow-ups recently too (GF, colluscum,etc). These could happen at any time in our opinion and whilst they're unedifying there's nothing particular sinister about them. Finally we've had a few (and we stress, only a few) trolls as well. And as has been wisely said by many on this thread and others the best way of dealing with trolls is to starve them of attention. (The opposite of what we are doing now, in fact). Oh and don't worry you'll know one when you see one!

On specific points raised:
We can and do delete individual postings on threads - we don't have to delete a whole thread. Although in the heat of the moment it can be hard to decide what to do and we undoubtedly sometimes get this wrong - apologies.
We reiterate that this is a public forum so therefore it's advisable not to expose personal details or post on things that you think could well be seen by someone you don't want to see them.
People do have to supply a valid email address which receives a welcome message before they can post.
We're not keen on compulsorary subscription for exactly the reasons Hula mentioned - we want everybody to have access, not just those who can afford it and we don't want to put people off joining in - the more users the better the chance that they'll be someone who comes up with just the answer, or who's been through the same thing and can really empathise. For the same reason we don't want to make it difficult to register. Nor are we fans of invitation only - it's the constant inflow of new members that stops mumsnet becoming too cliquey, we believe.

Sorry to have banged on a bit. It is something we think about a lot and at the end of the day this is your forum as much as ours so there's no question that if the majority disagree with our stance or think they'd like some changes then we will get onto it.
Thanks again for the suggestions.

Justine, Carrie, Rachel and Tech

fio2 · 29/09/2004 19:05

so shall we put it to a public vote?

only joking

or am I?

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kalex · 29/09/2004 19:08

Fantastic post Justine. Once again thank you for creating the brilliant forum, where I have been made to feel so welcome

littlemissbossy · 29/09/2004 19:10

For the record, I like mumsnet just the way it is, omg sound a right sucker

ks · 29/09/2004 19:48

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JanH · 29/09/2004 19:53

No dark sarcasm in the schoolyard...??? (or is that something else?)

motherinferior · 29/09/2004 19:56

M'netters, leave those trolls alone!

kalex · 29/09/2004 19:59

Hey MNetters Leave those trolls alone

ks · 30/09/2004 14:29

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iota · 30/09/2004 14:30

I love you just the way you are......

MTS · 30/09/2004 14:31

we don't need no educashun - we don't need no thread control....

ks · 30/09/2004 14:32

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