Banning/suspending trollhunters ?

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Not sure if it's getting worse, or me getting grumpier, but quite a few threads of late where - despite clear and unambiguous guidelines - some posters decide to clog it up with in-thread accusations, rather than quietly clicking "report" and going about their day.

Especially in more sensitive threads it can be quite distressing to the OP.

Since it's clearly against site rules, why doesn't MNHQ ban or suspend people who insist on trollhunting ? Especially after MNHQ comment on a thread (but people "miss" it) ?

Awaits a flaming (or being called a troll )

To my (admittedly uneducated eye) there isn't much - if any - difference between someone starting a trolling thread, and someone trollhunting on a thread after MNHQ have stepped in and asked people not to. But it still happens

So you’re saying that troll hunters are as bad as those making up stories that are often emotionally draining, including rape, child bereavement, domestic violence, terminal illness etc?

Time and time again people get sucked in and will even defend the “poor OP” often giving their own experience and becoming too involved then guess what? MNHQ come on and say it’s a troll, but those posters don’t seem to learn and think twice next time they come across a similar thread.

People need to wise up and be cautious. If it looks like a troll and reads like a troll ime it usually is.

Troll hunters will never be as bad as nob trolls.

Why is complaining constantly about troll hunters, some of whom might well save an innocent person from investing a lot of time and emotion in a thread when it comes to the obvious perverts and hairy handers, any better than the troll hunting? It still details the thread. Why not just quietly report, if they bother you so much? I don’t get it.

Aww hiddenrobins are you desperate for some back slaps hun?

Calm ya jets GetOff, that's not very nice is it?

My 'jets' are calm CapedCrusader. Thanks though

Welcome

I don't comment much on mn. When I used to come here more I found it took ages to get a response when reporting obvious perverts. But I am nearly always here outside of office hours. So there are only voluntary mods on with obviously their own life to live as well.
I find it hard to understand how all those against troll hunters don't get upset about men wanking to stories naive mums are sharing about their kids. That literally makes me feel sick.
I don't care less though if you post pretending to berich when you are poor, or some other fantasy story.

I honestly don’t think it ever crosses many posters minds that someone could be getting off at something most would deem “innocent”. I’m sure they would be appalled if they knew they were!

I just wish some women would wake up and realise that not everyone on MN is who they say they are and think before they divulge information.

Yeah, there is a difference between a creative writer/troll with a slightly unbelievable story supplying frequent updates for the supporters and the ones that are trying (and all too frequently suceeeding) to get stories/information out of other people. Definitely avoid the latter ones!

Troll threads are frequently posted at the same time of day, when the mods have stopped - also a big clue.

I wonder if there is a way of generating an automatic MNHQ post with a generic notice once a report is received? Even something as simple as a red capital R after the title would be enough to warn posters that the thread was being investigated? Otherwise, as someone else suggested, a simple ' This thread has been reported and we are investigating' post from MNHQ which could be inserted after the OP. At least posters would then be aware and more careful about what they post until a decision was made.

Troll hunting has always been against the rules and as someone else has said, just because an OP has a different experience from other posters, doesn't make them a troll.

Yes a lot of them are posted past midnight and during the early hours. Most nights there’s something very dubious being posted.

Something that might perhaps help to to deal with troll threads started (or first suspected) out of modding hours would be if reports at such times could autogenerate a reply directing the reporter to the Night Watch. I'd guess a lot of people don't know even they exist or how they work. I know they're there, but I don't know exactly what the modding hours are so it's not always clear when to ask them to intervene.

Trolls don’t bother me because they’re not effecting my life in anyway whatsoever. But I’ve recently had a thread deleted because of troll hunting, a completely innocuous thread. People can’t post anything anymore without being accused of being a troll and it’s ridiculous.

I think most innocent threads are deleted for being GF. That is much more a matter of personal opinion. Creative writing stories, well if you are naive enough to believe it, up to you. But it is the perverts I really want off MN.
Also knowing there are so many perverts on MN, I would never ask MNers for advice on issues such as toilet training as I am too aware of who else would be reading it.

Trolls don’t bother me because they’re not effecting my life in anyway whatsoever

So you wouldn’t be bothered by some pervert getting off on a thread about your teenage DDs underwear or your little girls bed wetting incidences?

That might not apply to you as I don’t know that you have DDs, but someone on here will have. That doesn’t bother you?

It should do.

No why would it? How would I ever know what some random person sat behind a computer screen is doing. How would effect me or my daughter? It doesn’t.

MNHQ should deal with trolls effectively. Then there wouldn't be a troll hunting problem.

You don’t see how damaging it can be to an Internet forum supposedly for women/mothers that someone is perving over their innocent query?

You can’t see how it makes many of us uncomfortable and suspicious and what that does on going?

Wake up woman.

No. It an anonymous forum. No one knows who you are and you don’t know who they are. There is zero way of knowing, which is why if it bothers you, you probably shouldn’t post about it. There will be thousands of weirdos not even signed up to mumsnet. They’ll just be reading it and wanking off. That’s something you just need to get over if you want to post about problems on a public forum.

I don’t ever post about anything personal but I’m aware that some women.

Monstrance when you post on the internet you don't know how someone you have never met will treat what you have written. I accept that. That is very different from posting on a forum intimate details about your kids when you know there are perverts reading it.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make? If you choose to post those details then it’s on you, nobody else. I’ve posted sensitive details before because it genuinely doesn’t bother me what people do when reading it. Also, for every 10 perverts reading it and getting off, there may be 10 people who really needed to see that post and they’re the only ones I care about.

Okay if it genuinely does not bother you that if you post details about your child's toilet training that you know the piss troll, a very frequent visitor to mn is getting off on it, then fine. I do care about that.
You act as if it is unavoidable it is not. Decent moderation I.e. paying for more mods and briefing them properly, would mean perverts like that can no longer solicit stories from naive mums.
I admit though I have never had much patience in life for those who accept negative things as inevitable and not something that can be changed