I'd just like to request that any trans threads be not (re)moved from AIBU or Chat

[VladmirsPoutine]

That is all.

If HQ has a position on this then it'd be great to hear it so we can all settle the debate regarding threads and boards on this particular issue.

All trans threads have a right to appear in AIBU or Chat without being shifted off to a board somewhere in the ether.

If anything there should be boards being closed down as they haven't been used in years.

I agree, something on the subject comes up every day. There is huge interest on MN about it. Leaving it in these prominent places shows the community as a whole the laughably transparent MRA campaign to come on her and scream transphobia on a daily basis to try and push their agenda and to try and no platform MN. Each time its met with rational, reasonable and persuasive debate by wonen and trans people who can see through the tactics. Each time it helps show them for the bullies they are.

It's so simple to close a thread once you've realised it doesn't interest you, makes me wonder what the complainers' motives are tbh #nodebate at work again?

I agree with this.

Unless mnhq are also going to remove all mil threads to Relationships, all teacher complaining threads to Education, all news threads to In The News, all tv threads to Telly Addicts, all vicious dog and pooing cat threads to the relevant pet topics (and yes, all Christmas threads to the Christmas topic), there is no need to move trans threads.

Obviously if mnhq want to reorganise all threads by topic they can. But to pick one, very important, subject and move it because people are bored with it is ridiculous.

We would need a parking topic, a wheelchairs on buses topic, a P&C parking spaces topic, an annoying neighbours topic for starters. I'm bored with all the above topics and many more but I'm not asking for them to be moved (I periodically hide aibu instead).

Christmas threads in the Christmas topic Maryz?
Surely not?
Where does Terry Wogan’s Cock go?

305 days btw.

Oh, and yes, conversations which affect every aspect of mother’s lives should not be tidied away to a convenient corner. Mumsnet is for #debate. It does not uphold the #nodebate ideology.

You saw unacceptable threads about transsexuals? I doubt it. There are actual transsexuals posting. Don’t let your preconceived ideas get in the way of actual facts, though, eh?

I have rarely seen any hate speech on any threads and almost never see a discussion of transsexuals.

There is a lot about the transgender movement though.

I don’t think MN should move the threads. I have some sympathy for people who don’t want to discuss the issue and find the boards too full of trans stuff and could put people off.

Just remind everyone how easy it is to hide threads.

mamaryllis.

I suppose, as a compromise (if one is needed) MN could go around aibu and chat putting "Trans" at the end of the thread title to save the objectors the 5 seconds it might cost them to open/close the thread.

If so, though, they need to have someone on full-time duty editing the tites of every thread so that everyone can hide the threads they find boring.

Unless mnhq are also going to remove all mil threads to Relationships, all teacher complaining threads to Education, all news threads to In The News, all tv threads to Telly Addicts, all vicious dog and pooing cat threads to the relevant pet topics (and yes, all Christmas threads to the Christmas topic), there is no need to move trans threads.

This.

And yes, people can just close threads, or hide them if they want.

Yes, it's really easy to hide the threads and you can do it from Active without opening them so it doesn't actually matter what topic they are in.

The only problem with that is when the title has no mention of 'trans' in it. So you open it, read a few lines then hide it. Sorted.

I think it is really important that discussions about the current trans situation are as mainstream as possible. People need to be informed and aware.

i just wish they had trans in the title.
but then I often wish thread titles said what the thread was about.
(that would probably be boring though)

There's a thread in AIBU titled just 'AIBU'. We at least need a clue.

As an aside, I think anyone who uses a vague title in their threads, trans or not, should be hung up by their fingernails and flogged.

You know, all those "AIBU to dislike this" and "AIBU about this cunty fucker" titles piss me off because they are always about parking or in-laws.

It's quite good now when people put 'Another Parking One' as the thread title. Good heads up and the hide function swiftly deployed.

I agree they shouldn’t all be hidden away, it’s an issue that needs to be seen as one for the general public.

Hiding a thread is easy enough, much easier than regaining rights after they have been lost.

(Not been a member for very long, but I’ve still yet to see any transphobia. This site was actually recommended in my support group)

Hi VladmirsPoutine,

Thanks for asking about this. Am happy to confirm that we have no plans to move threads concerning trans issues to any specific area of the site - if a thread's started in Chat or AIBU, that's where it'll stay.

In general we don't have hard and fast rules about where people choose to post - the only time we'd usually step in is for sensitive issues, so we'd move a thread asking about termination out of our Pregnancy topic and into our Pregnancy Choices one, for example.

Other than that, we leave it up to you.

@Maryz

As an aside, I think anyone who uses a vague title in their threads, trans or not, should be hung up by their fingernails and flogged.

Will put this suggestion to the team, Maryz.

Has that actually happened? Did a trans thread get moved against OP's wishes?

pax No it hasn't to my knowledge. The thread came about because of this thread in AIBU: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a3176459-to-ask-for-trans-threads-to-stay-in-Feminism?msgid=75877585#75877585

Ah, thanks, so not idly musing .

I not-so-secretly love a good hygiene thread. I wash my towels hourly and if you aren't, your kids will have worms in their bum! I wash mine annually and if you do it more often, the planet will die!