Threads being deleted all the time

[Gwenhwyfar]

It seems to be at least 1 in 5 threads that get deleted because some over-sensitive person doesn't agree with something in it.
What's the logic MN?
Surely this is a place for people to discuss things, you either get involved in the conversation if you disagree or ignore the thread if it's annoying you too much. Why do interesting threads have to be deleted because people don't agree with some of the things said on them? The judgemental thread today is one example.
I understand deleting threads where the OP's story isn't true or there's a danger to someone being identified, but not just because someone's complained.

There was no persecution Naught, don't be silly. Do you know what persecution means? It's not someone saying they don't like something you did.
What was the disabilism on the thread? Like I said, all I saw wa speople disapproving of using reins on children.
There was nothing illegal on the thread. If there was you could have reported to the police rather than MN.
I'm listening, but I don't agree with you, which is my right.

Look I'm out! Your the one that's keeping this attitude going,

You've been told repeatedly not just by me their was disablism on that thread, you've been told by HQ. why that thread was deleted, because it got reported and it was causing upset,

The fact that HQ were having to delete any posts, in their words leaving it rather Swiss cheesy, should tell you it was more than judgement of wether people used reigns or not.

You don't seem to understand that you or anyone does not have the right to make disabled people or the parents or people with disabilities feel judged or shit. In fact no one has the right to do that to any one,

"you've been told by HQ. why that thread was deleted, because it got reported and it was causing upset"

Yes, they've explained this, but it's not an adequate explanation imo. You can't control what others post on the internet. I might read a news story that upsets me, but I can't get it taken down.

"you or anyone does not have the right to make disabled people or the parents or people with disabilities feel judged or shit. In fact no one has the right to do that to any one,"

As long as I'm not breaking the law I do have the right to judge people actually. If that makes someone feel shit, that is their reaction to it and it depends on how sensitive they are. (I have not judged disabled people by the way, but I do judge behaviour that most of us would disprove of such as littering. )

It doesn't matter what you think - or what I think - this isn't our board. Live with it or start your own. I promise not to ever post on it.

I don't believe for one second that if someone started judging something that was personal to you that you wouldn't be offended. And if they continued and it escalated. You're exactly the same as all the other posters, you think that your right to judge (which we all have) also confers on you the right to say what you like about whatever you like. Now you know.

Lying, I've seen things that have offended me personally on here and I have argued my case on those threads.

"Live with it or start your own. "

So, I'm not allowed to complain, now? This is what Site Stuff is for!

You've missed the point of what I'm saying entirely. If you break talk guidelines you'll be deleted and if the thread does that it will be deleted - at MNHQ's invitation.

You either post within that instruction, or you get deleted - or you post somewhere else. Either way, your post/thread is gone.

Complain all you like, I'll leave you to it.

Gwen unfortunately some people just have this precious idea it's their right to not be offended. Thankfully the real world still allows legal free thought.

Thankfully MN are shit hot with that red button because where people's blathering on with their irrelevant, spiteful streams of consciousness impact on serious topics, they're gone.

Some posters think they have the 'right to judge' in respect of things that impinge on disablism, SEN and any number of other thigh-rubbing issues, because they don't care that they're upsetting posters for whom those things are a reality.

Go on with your head-patting incorruptibledream, you never know - you might get Gwenhwyfar to really overstep... and wouldn't that be fun for you?

Interesting point about the 'reins on children' comments in that thread. I had honestly never given the topic much (any) thought at all and had no views - it's simply something that had never come up in my life so far.

I was mildly interested in reading that some people judged them (again, it's never occured to me to think much about them at all). But I was more interested in the reponses from posters that the negative comments were hurtful because they needed to use reins for disabled children and felt judged in real life too.

It was an eye-opener for me and made me think. I learned something from those responses. A tiny thing that expanded my viewpoint and might enable me to respond appropriately if it does ever come up in my life. It's a shame that things like this are lost in the shouting, and then deleted.

PatchworkGirl, I've had the same thing myself, having posted on threads previously about buggies and reins - and had my arse handed to me. Like you, I've thought about it and if I see those posts now, I'll say something on the thread. It's more important than reporting really because the affected posters get supported by your post.

Mumsnet has become a haven for trolls and goady posters now and they don't care. They want a ruck and people getting upset are the 'cherry on top'.

Sadly F1 is more popular when there are crashes.

Please don't get into the reins on children subject. It's obvious not allowed on MN and will get this thread deleted as well. I wish it wasn't the case, but it seems that some subjects are just not accepted.
The judging thread was mainly about people's style choices and all sorts of less controversial subjects, but the whole thread was deleted because of certain subjects.

Patchwork - that's the thing, these exchanges are educational and people learn more from seeing the thread than from getting it deleted.

Dixie - I'm not being a drama queen, I'm basing it on what's happened in the past.
I didn't say that parents of children with SN are here to educate me, I just said that these thread can be educational.

I found it educational Dixie and so did others. Just because it wasn't to you, doesn't mean it wasn't to others.

Did you see the thread, Dixie? It wasn't 'educational' at all and wasn't designed to be. It was spiteful compilation of judgemental assessments of 'what other people do'. Even when posters did post to complain. Absolutely vile.

" It was spiteful compilation of judgemental assessments of 'what other people do'. "

It wasn't spiteful. It was people owning up to things that they judge. Those people don't say anything to the people they judge, but they think it anyway despite themselves and it was supposed to be a place to be honest about that. There was no need for people to take it as a personal attack on them. No particular person was singled out.

"So it doesn't matter to you that it upset parents of children with disabilities because you found it educational?"

I think they were being hypersensitive and that the thread shouldn't have been deleted because they were upset.
As I said, they have two options if they don't like a thread. They can either argue their case within the thread or leave the thread. I don't think it's fair to shut down free 'speech' just because you don't agree with something.

Those saying that threads containing inflammatory posts should be locked, should remember this is an internet forum that can be read by any random passer by.

It can't be right to leave possibly illegal, derogatory or libellous content to be read in perpetuity.

Provocative posts by trolls need to be deleted, threads started by trolls must be deleted and outright wrong posts need to be deleted.