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How about a campaign where the users get MNHQ staff to take diversity training?

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Ghostofasmile · 03/11/2016 13:09

MNHQ themselves have displayed ignorance (at best) over the last few months and prejudice / discrimination at worst when dealing with certain situations.
For example Justine, the sites owner herself over the last few days has made some very ignorant and damaging comments about diabetes.
We have seen the same with many times with Racism too as well as low level disablism.

Unless you are white, middle class and able bodied HQ isn't a nice place to be.

Post here if you would like this to take place. HQ need training and they need it fast.

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:11

This would be Jason with Autism and communication disorder who didn't understand what the word miscarrying actually meant and spent the rest of the thread apologising and emailed MNHQ to ask to be deleted.

Which is understandable on a thread about people who use the site with disabilities, that you'll get people with disabilities responding.

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:15

And Jason has a long site history, so certainly didn't make the fact he has this disability up, as others suggested on the thread.

I remember he also asked if a donation to a miscarriage charity would be a good thing to do?

He was unfairly banned MNHQ failed you both that night and shouldn't have let the thread get into that state.

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:18

I'm Javabeansaintgeorge by the way, I unregistered, then re-registered.
If there's a way to get my old account back let me know.

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:18

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:21

Anyway, I won't be excusing his behaviour.

Neither did he, he emailed HQ and asked to be banned... then publicly apologized on the last disablism thread for what he had done.

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:23

And then was banned for his conduct. It was appalling.

Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:27

And then was banned for his conduct. It was appalling.

Yeah fuck him.

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:28

Yes, fuck him indeed.

WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:28

I don't want another one of my weekends ruined by MUMSNET, so my last post on that particularly awful situation for anyone reading this is that I don't want anyone to think he was banned unfairly - he wasn't. His comment was disgraceful, and Hq agreed.

If anyone wants to argue that fact just remember I am real person and that weekend something dreadful happened to me and what he said will forever be stuck in my mind - so please, if you want to reply to this thread please consider my feelings when you do so.

WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:28

Not sure why Mumsnet is in capitals..

Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:30

This is why these threads shouldn't be on site stuff. This is why MumsnetHQ should be able to do conversations over emails.

It's a site failing.

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MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 05/11/2016 09:33

I just want to add that I remember that thread Waitrose and I don't think he was unfairly banned either. Although I think he was almost begging to be banned for it so quite why he didn't just leave the thread and deregister himself I don't know.

Thisjustinno · 05/11/2016 09:40

I don't think it was an unfair ban either. I also remember that he wasn't trying to open a private dialogue with MN about disablism, he was threatening legal action and that's what his letters were about. That's what I saw on one of the threads anyway.

BishopBrennansArse · 05/11/2016 09:47

Yes. He was approaching a legal angle after years of trying to open a dialogue.

As I have done and countless others.

MaudGonneMad · 05/11/2016 09:49

I don't think it was an unfair ban either. I also remember that he wasn't trying to open a private dialogue with MN about disablism, he was threatening legal action and that's what his letters were about. That's what I saw on one of the threads anyway.

He also stated on a number of threads that MNHQ deliberately left up hate speech in order to get more clicks/viewers/advertising revenue.

I suspect that there was a long backstory to his banning, and his behaviour on that last thread was merely the final instalment.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/11/2016 09:50

I think you are probably right Maud

Saucery · 05/11/2016 09:52

I think MNHQ are perfectly capable of keeping up with legal obligations without having to be harangued by email.
It comes down to some users of a site wanting absolutely everything to be just as they think it should be, whether that be wrt disability, trans issues or anything else. The debates are always worth having, but the outcome may not be that every suggestion is then taken up by the owners of the site and cast in stone for evermore.

NavyandWhite · 05/11/2016 09:57

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Bejazzled · 05/11/2016 10:08

I remember the thread, Waitrose I hope you are recovered from your miscarriage 💐

It's important to say that any banning or flouncings were self inflicted - so that the truth of what happened doesn't get lost with the passage of time (or the stories are spun to look like anyone was forced out unfairly)

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 05/11/2016 10:12

It's probably fairly safe to assume that the second just one person mentioned "legal" MNHQ would have checked that out immediately. So I'd guess a lot of the 'ignoring' is probably MNHQ refusing to engage with empty threats.

DixieNormas · 05/11/2016 11:47

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 12:09

No Dixie, I didn't name call - that's not what I do. You've got that wrong.

My posts were deleted because they quoted previously deleted posts.

Queenbean · 05/11/2016 12:10

Seperately to this it does seem like there would be a great business opportunity to set up a specialist forum for those with disabilities and their families - it could have all sorts of expert guest blogs, practical help and support, get sponsorship from charities etc etc

Someone should do it

DixieNormas · 05/11/2016 12:11

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 12:12

Whatever you say, Dixie.