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Site attacks, hackergate and resetting passwords - here's what we know, what we're doing about it and what we think you should do. PLEASE READ!

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JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 15:37

On the night of Tuesday 11 August, Mumsnet came under attack from what's known as a denial of service (DDoS) attack. Our servers were bombarded with requests, which required our internet service provider to massively increase server capacity to cope. We were able to restore the site at 10am on Wednesday 12 August. Meanwhile a Twitter account, @DadSecurity, claimed responsibility, saying in various tweets "Now is the start of something wonderful", "RIP Mumsnet", "Nothing will be normal anymore" and "Our DDoS attacks are keeping you offline".

To add to the 'fun', it seems @DadSecurity also resorted to Swatting attacks. Swatting is a criminal practice in which someone makes an emergency call to the police claiming that a crime is taking place at the house of the intended victim, in order to get them to send a swat team to the address.

An armed response team turned up at my house last week in the middle of the night, after reports of a gunman prowling around. A Mumsnet user who engaged with @DadSecurity on Twitter was warned to "prepare to be swatted by the best" in a tweet that included a picture of a swat team, after which police arrived at her house late at night following a report of gunshots. Needless to say, she and her young family were pretty shaken up. It's worth saying that we don't believe these addresses were gained directly from any Mumsnet hack, as we don't collect addresses. The police are investigating both instances.

@DadSecurity also claimed that he had access to Mumsnet user data. Later on 12 August, it became apparent that someone/ones had hacked into some of Mumsnet's administrative functions, at which point they were able to redirect our homepage to the @DadSecurity Twitter profile page, as well as to edit posts from two users' account and an MNHQ account on our forums.

Someone claiming to be the hacker also posted on the thread on which users were discussing the site outage. We immediately locked down all access to our admin functions and reported the attack to the police. We were confident that users' passwords had not been accessed, because MNHQ doesn't hold them as plain text; they're all encrypted, so that no one - not even us - can see them.

However, over the weekend, a user reported that posts had been made under her name which weren't by her, and we spotted two other cases where this had happened. This clearly suggested that the hacker had nonetheless been able to get hold of some users' passwords.

Our best guess at this stage (and it is just a best guess) is that this has been done via a form of phishing, in which the hacker creates a fake Mumsnet login page to which users are directed when clicking on our login button. The page would have had a different url but otherwise would look just like the usual page. The hacker would have been able to see passwords in plain text when they were typed in.

We take great care to protect the information you give us and not to ask for or store any more information than we need to run the site, but though we can't know how many accounts have been affected, there have been enough breaches for us to ask all Mumsnet users to change their passwords. As a result, you'll no longer be able to log in to Mumsnet with your current password, and will need to create a new one, here.

This will mean that any passwords the hacker has been able to harvest up to this point will be useless. We are looking into what we can do to strengthen our defences against phishing, but in the meantime we need to ask you to be vigilant, and to check the URL of the login page for the foreseeable future. The correct URL is www.mumsnet.com/session/login and it reads rather than at the beginning. We will place a warning on the login page reminding you to do this.

Alternatively use the social login option (ie Facebook/Google) as then you won't be required to enter a password. And if you log into any other sites using the same password that you use on Mumsnet, it makes sense to change your password on those sites, too.

We're really sorry for the alarm and inconvenience this might cause, and we realise you're likely to have further questions about what's been happening, so here's a summary of answers to the most obvious questions.

You say the hacker was able to access Mumsnet users' data: was data from my personal account accessed?
We have no way of knowing how many Mumsnetters were affected - so far we have evidence of 11 user accounts being hacked but it's an ongoing investigation. Those users have been informed, and their passwords have been reset. We think it prudent, however, that everyone reset their passwords - which in any case is a sensible thing to do from time to time.

What data could the hacker see?
By using your password and login, he would have been able to see the data on your profile - so that includes your username or email plus your password, your postcode if you've supplied it, your username history and your Mumsnet inbox.

Now that I've changed my password, can you guarantee that my data is safe?
Unfortunately, we can't give you a cast-iron guarantee of this - no site can. By forcing a password reset the hacker won't be able to log in as you; however, if phishing was the cause, the page could be phished again, which is why it's important that you check the URL of the login page when you enter your details, or use your social login. If the URL is anything other than www.mumsnet.com/session/login, don't use it.

Final thoughts
The internet is of course brilliant, but it's not 100% safe and secure. Whenever you share anything on the web, either publicly (such as on a Mumsnet thread) or privately (such as the data you give to a website when signing up), have a think about how happy you'd be for that information to fall into the hands of someone else. Make your passwords as secure as possible and change them every few months. Use different passwords for different accounts. Close redundant accounts that you no longer use.

And if you read nothing else...
I do realise this post is long, so here's a quick summary:

DO reset your Mumsnet password
DO make passwords really strong to reduce the risk of them being guessed
DO check the URL of any login page to reduce risk of phishing
DO verify that is being used on login pages
DO use social login to avoid typing passwords
DON'T give out information to any organisations without verifying they are who they say they are (such as the fake @mumsnetsupport twitter account that had also been started but has now been removed by Twitter)

Please post here or mail us on [email protected] with any questions or thoughts. As you can imagine our inbox is fairly voluminous at the moment but we'll get back to you as quickly as we can.

Thanks very much for reading,

Justine

OP posts:
Squeegle · 19/08/2015 07:17

Can you see if I am there please?

BrumpyGollocks · 19/08/2015 07:17

I also wondered about that Binary,my nn is relatively new

HazleNutt · 19/08/2015 07:18

can someone check me? and password? I don't remember which one I used for MN b

PegsPigs · 19/08/2015 07:18

Dueling how do I search on an iPad please? I have the list but no knowledge of how to search Flowers

TellitToTheTrees · 19/08/2015 07:18

mutt and duellingfanjo how do you search the page on an iPad? Thanks

snapple · 19/08/2015 07:19

Sorry can someone check the list for me - many thanks and sorry to hear about this!

Also what wad the point of publishing ip addresses?

Ta

hinkyhonk · 19/08/2015 07:19

How can I find out if I'm on the list?

adorably2014 · 19/08/2015 07:19

Thank you 00100001. Do you mean if I did a name change I need to check that too?

Totality22 · 19/08/2015 07:19

Thanks positive, I just found myself on the list. Am fucked off to say the least as I have just had my bank account emptied (thankfully bank spotted it immediately and contacted me. As I say it wasn't password related but still)

IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is the concern if you use the same username and password elsewhere? Or is it just the password? Or just the username.... confused and concerned.

00100001 · 19/08/2015 07:20

snapple Nothing for you

IP addresses scare people :)

FeelingSmurfy · 19/08/2015 07:20

Can you check if I am on there please

DuelingFanjo · 19/08/2015 07:20

No as apple, you are not on the list

00100001 · 19/08/2015 07:20

totality if you use the same username elsewhere, it's likely you're using the same password :)

SchwarzwalderKirschtorte · 19/08/2015 07:22

Hazle, snapple and Hinky - you're not on the list

00100001 · 19/08/2015 07:22

Smurfy Nope, not on thelist :)

MythicalKings · 19/08/2015 07:22

I have the list as well if anyone wants to ask or pm.

DawnOfTheDoggers · 19/08/2015 07:22

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

FeelingSmurfy · 19/08/2015 07:22

What info is given? Is it username and password or does it have email etc?

FeelingSmurfy · 19/08/2015 07:23

Thanks for checking, really appreciate it

exLtEveDallas · 19/08/2015 07:24

Surely the only issue will be if you use the same log in AND password on other sites?

It's not like you can go to Amazon in your own name and use someone else's password to get into their account - you need both. Plus access to that persons email to be able to change delivery addresses etc.

The only email addresses I can see on that list are MnHQers, otherwise it's just ip, nickname and old password - And no passwords after yesterday's forced change.

Plus if you automatically sign in (ie have used the 'save for this site' function) then you should be clear too - only people that went to the false log in page seem to have been 'caught'. The amount of repetition makes me think that some users tried a number of times with different password combinations to get in before giving up.

So it's a hack, sure, but a pretty amateur one, solved as soon as MNHQ forced the password change.

(Disclaimer - not a computer geek but was chatting to one last night)

DuelingFanjo · 19/08/2015 07:24

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TellitToTheTrees · 19/08/2015 07:24

pegspigs cut and paste the list into pages then Click on TOOLS and the FIND and type in your user name. It is very quick.

Stradbroke · 19/08/2015 07:24

Could someone check me please? Thanks

00100001 · 19/08/2015 07:24

Smurfy

It has IP address, username, password.

that's all :)

00100001 · 19/08/2015 07:25

strad Not on the list

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