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Site attacks, hackergate and resetting passwords - here's what we know, what we're doing about it and what we think you should do. PLEASE READ!

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JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 15:37

On the night of Tuesday 11 August, Mumsnet came under attack from what's known as a denial of service (DDoS) attack. Our servers were bombarded with requests, which required our internet service provider to massively increase server capacity to cope. We were able to restore the site at 10am on Wednesday 12 August. Meanwhile a Twitter account, @DadSecurity, claimed responsibility, saying in various tweets "Now is the start of something wonderful", "RIP Mumsnet", "Nothing will be normal anymore" and "Our DDoS attacks are keeping you offline".

To add to the 'fun', it seems @DadSecurity also resorted to Swatting attacks. Swatting is a criminal practice in which someone makes an emergency call to the police claiming that a crime is taking place at the house of the intended victim, in order to get them to send a swat team to the address.

An armed response team turned up at my house last week in the middle of the night, after reports of a gunman prowling around. A Mumsnet user who engaged with @DadSecurity on Twitter was warned to "prepare to be swatted by the best" in a tweet that included a picture of a swat team, after which police arrived at her house late at night following a report of gunshots. Needless to say, she and her young family were pretty shaken up. It's worth saying that we don't believe these addresses were gained directly from any Mumsnet hack, as we don't collect addresses. The police are investigating both instances.

@DadSecurity also claimed that he had access to Mumsnet user data. Later on 12 August, it became apparent that someone/ones had hacked into some of Mumsnet's administrative functions, at which point they were able to redirect our homepage to the @DadSecurity Twitter profile page, as well as to edit posts from two users' account and an MNHQ account on our forums.

Someone claiming to be the hacker also posted on the thread on which users were discussing the site outage. We immediately locked down all access to our admin functions and reported the attack to the police. We were confident that users' passwords had not been accessed, because MNHQ doesn't hold them as plain text; they're all encrypted, so that no one - not even us - can see them.

However, over the weekend, a user reported that posts had been made under her name which weren't by her, and we spotted two other cases where this had happened. This clearly suggested that the hacker had nonetheless been able to get hold of some users' passwords.

Our best guess at this stage (and it is just a best guess) is that this has been done via a form of phishing, in which the hacker creates a fake Mumsnet login page to which users are directed when clicking on our login button. The page would have had a different url but otherwise would look just like the usual page. The hacker would have been able to see passwords in plain text when they were typed in.

We take great care to protect the information you give us and not to ask for or store any more information than we need to run the site, but though we can't know how many accounts have been affected, there have been enough breaches for us to ask all Mumsnet users to change their passwords. As a result, you'll no longer be able to log in to Mumsnet with your current password, and will need to create a new one, here.

This will mean that any passwords the hacker has been able to harvest up to this point will be useless. We are looking into what we can do to strengthen our defences against phishing, but in the meantime we need to ask you to be vigilant, and to check the URL of the login page for the foreseeable future. The correct URL is www.mumsnet.com/session/login and it reads rather than at the beginning. We will place a warning on the login page reminding you to do this.

Alternatively use the social login option (ie Facebook/Google) as then you won't be required to enter a password. And if you log into any other sites using the same password that you use on Mumsnet, it makes sense to change your password on those sites, too.

We're really sorry for the alarm and inconvenience this might cause, and we realise you're likely to have further questions about what's been happening, so here's a summary of answers to the most obvious questions.

You say the hacker was able to access Mumsnet users' data: was data from my personal account accessed?
We have no way of knowing how many Mumsnetters were affected - so far we have evidence of 11 user accounts being hacked but it's an ongoing investigation. Those users have been informed, and their passwords have been reset. We think it prudent, however, that everyone reset their passwords - which in any case is a sensible thing to do from time to time.

What data could the hacker see?
By using your password and login, he would have been able to see the data on your profile - so that includes your username or email plus your password, your postcode if you've supplied it, your username history and your Mumsnet inbox.

Now that I've changed my password, can you guarantee that my data is safe?
Unfortunately, we can't give you a cast-iron guarantee of this - no site can. By forcing a password reset the hacker won't be able to log in as you; however, if phishing was the cause, the page could be phished again, which is why it's important that you check the URL of the login page when you enter your details, or use your social login. If the URL is anything other than www.mumsnet.com/session/login, don't use it.

Final thoughts
The internet is of course brilliant, but it's not 100% safe and secure. Whenever you share anything on the web, either publicly (such as on a Mumsnet thread) or privately (such as the data you give to a website when signing up), have a think about how happy you'd be for that information to fall into the hands of someone else. Make your passwords as secure as possible and change them every few months. Use different passwords for different accounts. Close redundant accounts that you no longer use.

And if you read nothing else...
I do realise this post is long, so here's a quick summary:

DO reset your Mumsnet password
DO make passwords really strong to reduce the risk of them being guessed
DO check the URL of any login page to reduce risk of phishing
DO verify that is being used on login pages
DO use social login to avoid typing passwords
DON'T give out information to any organisations without verifying they are who they say they are (such as the fake @mumsnetsupport twitter account that had also been started but has now been removed by Twitter)

Please post here or mail us on [email protected] with any questions or thoughts. As you can imagine our inbox is fairly voluminous at the moment but we'll get back to you as quickly as we can.

Thanks very much for reading,

Justine

OP posts:
HemlockStarglimmer · 18/08/2015 20:14

I didn't get an email either.

mrsronswanson · 18/08/2015 20:14

I've had no email from mumsnet but have now had around 5 "I want to taste your juices" random emails. Has anyone else had this?

AuntieStella · 18/08/2015 20:14

Are emails going out in batches perhaps?

There must be thousands of MN accounts (many old/dormant?) so it must take a while to mail shot.

ginslinger · 18/08/2015 20:15

I didn't get an email, or a biscuit for that matter. Is it cos i'm old?

Evilwater · 18/08/2015 20:16

I had "I want to be your sex slave" this morning but i deleted it. I thought nothing of this.
It was just the one mind.

neepsandtatties · 18/08/2015 20:16

Nope no emails here either. Only knew about it because of this sticky.

EBearhug · 18/08/2015 20:16

I too have not received an email. I have had a mail from MN about saving money offers, so email to me is working. It's not in my spam, either.

I don't feel the need to receive a mail, as I've changed my password and stuff anyway. Just thought I'd mention it as you said you'd mailed all users, and as I was pointing out to a colleague before leaving the office today, "How the hell do they expect us to investigate problems we don't know about? Not bloody psychic."

Also, not getting https, but I think I read upthread that's only on the log in page?

And I totally agree about enforcing strong passwords.

Emiliasmumtobe · 18/08/2015 20:18

I've changed my password since seeing this thread this evening but I never received an email from Mumsnet advising me to do so. I've checked junk mail folder and nothing.

MarchLikeAnAntt · 18/08/2015 20:19

The email account I use for MN and junk has been taken over, I used the same password for MN and my email. I have had to make a new email account and re-sign up to MN.

Keep an eye on your email account people.

JustForThisFred · 18/08/2015 20:21

Yesterday I was able to log straight in with my password saved on my ipad.

Today I could not

I hadn't seen all this until now as I haven't been on in ages.

I've reset my password, but not sure if they've hacked my account or not. Weird I could sign in yesterday, but not today.

I didn't get an email :(

Flowers Justine & all who have been 'swagged'. Scary stuff x

Wolfcub · 18/08/2015 20:21

I also didn't receive an e-mail, I've checked junk mail and trash.

SarahMumsnet · 18/08/2015 20:22

OK - thanks loads for letting us know about the emails. Will look into that as a matter of urgency - and very sorry to those who didn't receive a mail from us. There wasn't any extra information in there, just fyi, so you're all up to speed; the mail was pretty much an exact replica of Justine's OP. But again, apologies that some of you didn't get them.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/08/2015 20:22

Keep an eye on your email account people.

Check if your email account has a 2-step verification option. (Google/gmail does - I'm not sure about others). This means that to log into your account from a new device you need a code texted to your mobile phone as well as your password, this obviously increases your account security massively.

Altinkum · 18/08/2015 20:23

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ChippingInGluggingOn · 18/08/2015 20:23

evilwater. I had a few of those too when I checked my spam folder. Also offers of click enlargement, Viagra, various other 'services' and a shed load of money offers.... So see you around guys. I'm off to have fun :) :) :)

NOT

00100001 · 18/08/2015 20:24

Why oh whhhhhhhy has the question of complex passwords not been answered MNHQ?

Evilwater · 18/08/2015 20:26

chipping I have NEVER had any of those e-mails.
It just freaked me out.

AtAt · 18/08/2015 20:27

I've taken part in a few Christmas present swap threads on here over the past few years, where you send and receive a present to/from another MNetter. I've just gone through and deleted any message I have received from another MNetter where they have sent me personal information about themselves (ie RL name and address).

ChippingInGluggingOn · 18/08/2015 20:28

evil yahoo spam filter is pretty good so I rarely see any now, but there has been a surge since this happened. Coincidence or not?!

iamaboveandBeyond · 18/08/2015 20:29

One of my olderr email addresses is being spammed. You dont keep a list or anything of them after we edit, do you?

RandomMess · 18/08/2015 20:29

I cannot reset my password!! Have had to log in using FB

ginandbearit · 18/08/2015 20:29

Have now got new username as password reset wasn't happening, so I can't post on the sex forum for a while will find it interesting if a new i.d. changes other things. About the attacks though...anyone else think it had something to do with that minor dj who caused outrage after his on air comments about breast feeding?

iamaboveandBeyond · 18/08/2015 20:30

(Its a yahoo one too. Wonder if its a yahoo problem then?)

SarahMumsnet · 18/08/2015 20:30

@00100001

Why oh whhhhhhhy has the question of complex passwords not been answered MNHQ?

It's something tech are planning to look at, 00100001

iamaboveandBeyond · 18/08/2015 20:31

My initial thought was our old friends, f4j

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