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Site attacks, hackergate and resetting passwords - here's what we know, what we're doing about it and what we think you should do. PLEASE READ!

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JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 15:37

On the night of Tuesday 11 August, Mumsnet came under attack from what's known as a denial of service (DDoS) attack. Our servers were bombarded with requests, which required our internet service provider to massively increase server capacity to cope. We were able to restore the site at 10am on Wednesday 12 August. Meanwhile a Twitter account, @DadSecurity, claimed responsibility, saying in various tweets "Now is the start of something wonderful", "RIP Mumsnet", "Nothing will be normal anymore" and "Our DDoS attacks are keeping you offline".

To add to the 'fun', it seems @DadSecurity also resorted to Swatting attacks. Swatting is a criminal practice in which someone makes an emergency call to the police claiming that a crime is taking place at the house of the intended victim, in order to get them to send a swat team to the address.

An armed response team turned up at my house last week in the middle of the night, after reports of a gunman prowling around. A Mumsnet user who engaged with @DadSecurity on Twitter was warned to "prepare to be swatted by the best" in a tweet that included a picture of a swat team, after which police arrived at her house late at night following a report of gunshots. Needless to say, she and her young family were pretty shaken up. It's worth saying that we don't believe these addresses were gained directly from any Mumsnet hack, as we don't collect addresses. The police are investigating both instances.

@DadSecurity also claimed that he had access to Mumsnet user data. Later on 12 August, it became apparent that someone/ones had hacked into some of Mumsnet's administrative functions, at which point they were able to redirect our homepage to the @DadSecurity Twitter profile page, as well as to edit posts from two users' account and an MNHQ account on our forums.

Someone claiming to be the hacker also posted on the thread on which users were discussing the site outage. We immediately locked down all access to our admin functions and reported the attack to the police. We were confident that users' passwords had not been accessed, because MNHQ doesn't hold them as plain text; they're all encrypted, so that no one - not even us - can see them.

However, over the weekend, a user reported that posts had been made under her name which weren't by her, and we spotted two other cases where this had happened. This clearly suggested that the hacker had nonetheless been able to get hold of some users' passwords.

Our best guess at this stage (and it is just a best guess) is that this has been done via a form of phishing, in which the hacker creates a fake Mumsnet login page to which users are directed when clicking on our login button. The page would have had a different url but otherwise would look just like the usual page. The hacker would have been able to see passwords in plain text when they were typed in.

We take great care to protect the information you give us and not to ask for or store any more information than we need to run the site, but though we can't know how many accounts have been affected, there have been enough breaches for us to ask all Mumsnet users to change their passwords. As a result, you'll no longer be able to log in to Mumsnet with your current password, and will need to create a new one, here.

This will mean that any passwords the hacker has been able to harvest up to this point will be useless. We are looking into what we can do to strengthen our defences against phishing, but in the meantime we need to ask you to be vigilant, and to check the URL of the login page for the foreseeable future. The correct URL is www.mumsnet.com/session/login and it reads rather than at the beginning. We will place a warning on the login page reminding you to do this.

Alternatively use the social login option (ie Facebook/Google) as then you won't be required to enter a password. And if you log into any other sites using the same password that you use on Mumsnet, it makes sense to change your password on those sites, too.

We're really sorry for the alarm and inconvenience this might cause, and we realise you're likely to have further questions about what's been happening, so here's a summary of answers to the most obvious questions.

You say the hacker was able to access Mumsnet users' data: was data from my personal account accessed?
We have no way of knowing how many Mumsnetters were affected - so far we have evidence of 11 user accounts being hacked but it's an ongoing investigation. Those users have been informed, and their passwords have been reset. We think it prudent, however, that everyone reset their passwords - which in any case is a sensible thing to do from time to time.

What data could the hacker see?
By using your password and login, he would have been able to see the data on your profile - so that includes your username or email plus your password, your postcode if you've supplied it, your username history and your Mumsnet inbox.

Now that I've changed my password, can you guarantee that my data is safe?
Unfortunately, we can't give you a cast-iron guarantee of this - no site can. By forcing a password reset the hacker won't be able to log in as you; however, if phishing was the cause, the page could be phished again, which is why it's important that you check the URL of the login page when you enter your details, or use your social login. If the URL is anything other than www.mumsnet.com/session/login, don't use it.

Final thoughts
The internet is of course brilliant, but it's not 100% safe and secure. Whenever you share anything on the web, either publicly (such as on a Mumsnet thread) or privately (such as the data you give to a website when signing up), have a think about how happy you'd be for that information to fall into the hands of someone else. Make your passwords as secure as possible and change them every few months. Use different passwords for different accounts. Close redundant accounts that you no longer use.

And if you read nothing else...
I do realise this post is long, so here's a quick summary:

DO reset your Mumsnet password
DO make passwords really strong to reduce the risk of them being guessed
DO check the URL of any login page to reduce risk of phishing
DO verify that is being used on login pages
DO use social login to avoid typing passwords
DON'T give out information to any organisations without verifying they are who they say they are (such as the fake @mumsnetsupport twitter account that had also been started but has now been removed by Twitter)

Please post here or mail us on [email protected] with any questions or thoughts. As you can imagine our inbox is fairly voluminous at the moment but we'll get back to you as quickly as we can.

Thanks very much for reading,

Justine

OP posts:
HoneyDragon · 19/08/2015 00:39

Well they've deffo posted our usernames and passwords. Gits

JustineMumsnet · 19/08/2015 00:39

The best advice remains to reset your password and followed our instructions:
do check the URL of the login page. The correct URL is www.mumsnet.com/session/login and it reads rather than at the beginning.

Better still use the social login option (ie Facebook/Google) as then you won't be required to enter a password. And if you log into any other sites using the same password that you use on Mumsnet, it makes sense to change your password on those sites, too.

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GarminGirl · 19/08/2015 00:40

dad what else have you got

Nice touch with the clown face! Spiders might be scarier for some tho

BertieBotts · 19/08/2015 00:40

Peggy no. You can't tell anything about somebody by their IP address, don't worry. The best they can get is your nearest big town/city and who your internet provider is (BT, Virgin, etc)

Perpendiculous · 19/08/2015 00:40

god there are 3000 names on there to trawl through to see if we are on there. gave up after about 150.

Press Ctrl and F on your keyboard while on the page and you can type your user name, or the first few letters of it, into that to search. If on a phone there is a way to do this but depends on the type of phone.

coffeeisnectar · 19/08/2015 00:40

Well I have never understood people who get their kicks out of upsetting others.

I notice there's no answer from the person behind it though.

textfan · 19/08/2015 00:40

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ProfessorBranestawm · 19/08/2015 00:40

DayToDay rather than reading through the massive list, copy and paste it into Word or similar, then do 'find' to search for your name or password.

wickedlazy · 19/08/2015 00:40

Use "find on page" to see if your name is there. Can be done from pc, laptop and up to date android mobile view. Not sure about apple. Think it can be done on ipad too?

DisappointedOne · 19/08/2015 00:41

"This was only possible because one of our members is a mod of Mumsnet. This member would like to remain anonymous"

From Twitter.

Bellemere · 19/08/2015 00:41

For me, that login page shows https striked through and (on chrome) is yellow, indicating its not secure as opposed to the usual green secure logo.

Perpendiculous · 19/08/2015 00:41

Should we be concerned that the list appears to include IP addresses as well as usernames and passwords?

No they can't get much from that, just your internet provider (sky, virgin etc) and general location.

Milllii · 19/08/2015 00:41

I have reset my password Justine but something is definitely not right. I had to reset it again half an hour ago as it wouldn't login and said it was incorrect which it wasn't. I think there is still a problem and new passwords are appearing on the lists as well.

DadSecurity · 19/08/2015 00:42

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MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 19/08/2015 00:42

I'm on the mobile site, how do I see the https address? It just comes up with www when I select the search bar.

ProfessorBranestawm · 19/08/2015 00:42

Ah thanks, didn't realise how you could do 'find on page' in the browser. Oh well, at least I've learned something from all this I suppose Hmm

Tempted to lurk without logging in for a while

wickedlazy · 19/08/2015 00:43

Can they read pm's, which could contain address's?

DayToDayShit · 19/08/2015 00:43

ok thanks for heads up on how to search

PeggyCarter · 19/08/2015 00:44

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DadSecurity · 19/08/2015 00:45

PeggyCarter Don't worry we have more

BunnyFint · 19/08/2015 00:45

Could you dereg this account and delete all my old posts please. Thanks.mim out.

HarrietSchulenberg · 19/08/2015 00:45

LISA MUMSNET You need to change EVERY password you have. Can't do screenshot from old tablet but they think they have your bank password.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/49909237

sarkymare · 19/08/2015 00:46

I don't suppose somebody could use the 'find on page' thing for me and search my name can they? I'm on my iPhone and can't seem to do it.

I did change my password earlier today after I couldn't log in on the app but now I'm thinking that was part of a hack?

PeggyCarter · 19/08/2015 00:46

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lordStrange · 19/08/2015 00:46

has someone a link to this list please?

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