mn hq, can we have an explanation - jess - and maybe re other trolls in future?

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I am aware that you can't divulge the means by which you determine whether or not a poster is genuine, predominantly because if you make that common knowledge then posters will know how to avoid being detected in the future.

but jess (long ongoing eleven weeks abortion threads) threads have now been deleted for being a troll, and I was wondering if, given it's the site users who usually report these things, we could perhaps have a bit more by way of explanation?

e.g. when sassysusan was banned, mn hq confirmed that she had previously posted as washwithcare, and users were able to identify.

There has been some speculation that jess was dizzymare, and I wondered whether this was the case?

Also, these threads have been ongoing for over a month now. How is it that it takes quite this long to determine that someone isn't actually all they seem?

LunaticFringe, that happened on another one too, so could be one I am thinking off or MrsDs - I doubt they are the same though.

cq, I don't think anyone would mix you up. Hers was party in caps, and she was copingveryquietly before she shortened it to CvQ (if she ever did - or was that just what others called her, can't remember?)
And I presume your life's not an ongoing soap opera

everlong if I dont find anything I dont really do anything unless its one of those stories that you know are definately going to have been covered in the press. Even then I just sort of bear it in mind and keep and eye on things.

I still always give the benefit of the doubt when it comes to bereaved parents. The strangest, saddest things happen, things that seem made up but are horribly true

LF, the one where you would find shells?

Why would a troll copy something out of the press? Surely they would realise that someone would remember the story.

I know that there was quite a lot going on another site around the same time and it shut down. A more specific site.

Anyone remember the girl that updated the mnetter that died, with the eating disorder was that hilllllls? She was caught because of misspelling words iirc. Also who the fuck has a friend that dies and thinks "I know I must update some randoms on the Internet!"

CvQ shortened her name after everyone abbreviated her names on the threads.

I was sucked in by her. On more than one occasion I spent an entire night up talking to her, along with many other posters.

This is so horrible and I have realized that I've been terribly naive.

Thanks for letting this thread stand MNHQ; the possibility of very sensitive threads being started by trolls had not really entered my consciousness. I actually did a mini-flounce and deregistered while all this was going on as it really changes the nature of the site when all this gossip is being bandied around and everyone feels paranoid and upset. My flounce lasted a day and a half but I've come back with a name change and from now on I'm going to keep my cards a bit closer to my chest, as it were. I've definitely "overshared" in the past and it's awful to think of that information falling into the wrong hands. Lesson learned!

I will continue to post dull minutiae on the shallow and pointless threads, however. Plenty of material there .

My troll radar is non existent. I have no clue, ever. The only one I was ever a bit suspicious of was dizzymare and even then it was only "well that's a bit unlikely" rather than klaxons sounding.

It changed a lot after that, lunatic.

lorcana - I c&p a part of jess's op and was deleted as it was decided I was mocking her, when i asked for claification as I was certainly not I was told I was troll hunting. I had c&p to answer another poster who had missed it.

What happened to thedevilwearsptimark was she a troll?

Also, not seen the boxroom troll for a while

*primark!!!!

sevenfold oh yes I remember her and her many incarnations. She hated me because I used to call into question most of the things she said. and her "mother" started a thread all about me telling other posters to ignore the things I'd said about her beloved daughter.

I think the thing about ss is that ultimately, you reap what you sew. SS was a deeply unpleasant individual. As washwithcare she was to put it bluntly, a nasty bitch who deserved all the vitriol she ever got on here, and tbh as sassysusan she wasn't much better. I remember some of her threads on the main boards (I don't go into bereavement) and her telling one poster she hoped her child died and another that she was the cause of her child's cancer. Even if she was genuinely bereaved, nothing, and I mean nothing gives anyone the right to talk to anyone else like that - being bereaved does not make one immune from consequence.

And actually it's comments like that that still make me doubt she was ever bereaved, because surely no-one who had genuinely lost a child would ever wish that on someone else? In fact I've heard posters here say as much e.g. when the eastenders storyline was running etc that a bereaved parent wouldn't wish the same on another parent - it just doesn't happen that way.

The upshot is, if you make your way through life by lying, deceiving, being nasty and generally unpleasant, then at some point you should expect to be called on it. And if you make your way through life by lying and deceiving, then at some point you should expect thta you might tell the truth one day and people won't believe you because all they know of you is that you are a lier.

And ss was still posting as washwithcare and her various laliaes while posting on bereavement. And she manipulated her blog and changed dates and posted some truly vile things about other posters on there. A lot of people were hurt by her.

So I'm sorry but she brought the reactions on herself. She didn't need to come back to mn, there are plenty of bereavement forums out there, plenty of other parenting forums. She could, if she had genuinely been bereaved, have gained support without the risk of being outed for the vile individual she is.

lw I don't know about tdwp tbh. I always had my suspicions, and she did lose her ability to namechange iirc. But at best she was a serious dramatist who loved the attention

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I saw talk that the boxroom troll was around at christmas, something about a stepdaughter and a dog.

I think she's just a dramatist as well though, a bit irritating but not nearly as hurtful as some of the more sinister ones.

Sady I remember Hills and a friend posting to say she had died. Until now though I had no idea that was a bit of trolling.. Weird.

I was with Jess at the beginning but very quickly came to the conclusion that she may have been trolling because the whole thing was just too attention seeky and needy, and the style of writing was more like published diary entries and we were her adoring readers. She really should/could have made her decision (which clearly, from post bloody one was going to be to keep the baby - there was no way on god's earth she was ever going to terminate) and I gave up once it became obvious that she didn;t actually want/need advice - just an audience.

Not that I didn't feel sorry for her - I did, but there wasn't really anything more constructive anyone could say - she was just feeding off all the attention and sympathy but not actually really listening to the advice.

Even now I know there was a dodgy issue with timing and another forum, I am loathe to think it was all completely made up by some 62 year old train spotter called Colin from Swindon.

I think she was for real, but was a bit poorly in the head. Or was in fact much further on in her PG and had every intention of having and keeping the child but just needed constant validation because her BF had ditched her.

Hilllls affected me very, very badly. I was in a dreadful place at the time and that pushed me over another edge. one anorexic poster had a look for her on a pro-ana website (which is very bad indeed for someone suffering from an ED). I myself had a bit of a breakdown and went into a spiral, losing a huge amount of weight in a very short time.

(Cwtches) lissie to her ample bussoom - sorry she hurt you so badly, my lovely.