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Has anyone got a 4x4?

673 replies

momof2 · 04/03/2004 13:36

We have just decided to get rid of our faithful Hippo (Nissan Micra) and branch out into the uncertain world of much larger family cars.
I have been looking at a discovery or freelander - please note all old ones not new.
Has anyone any experience of how good/bad they are please? Or any 4x4's they would recommend or MPV's
Many thanks

OP posts:
MrsDoolittle · 08/11/2005 22:34

FGS Skribble!

elastamum · 08/11/2005 22:35

Do you think they know and all the little car drivers follow me round the lanes to get their own back

handlemecarefully · 08/11/2005 22:35

Btw Skribble, I think that your plastic crumple zone should get appropriate recognition!

Skribble · 08/11/2005 22:35

Don't FGS me, I think you missed my point .

Skribble · 08/11/2005 22:36

Yes I think my plastic crumple zone has been duely ignored as it spoils a few arguments.

moondog · 08/11/2005 22:37

Honestly PPH,like I care what they're called??

(Although I do know actually thanks to years incarcerated in a boarding school surrounded by pony mad Cheshire gals. That was just to wind you in particular up.)

And nope,couldn't care less if I murder a horse.I'll care when they start paying road tax like me.

MrsDoolittle · 08/11/2005 22:37

What? The rider deserves an accident?
Now there is joking, that is funny and there is joking that is not. That was not!

elastamum · 08/11/2005 22:38

What about people on bicycles, they dont pay road tax either?

Heathcliffscathy · 08/11/2005 22:39

skribble your 4x4 is still too high. it is still going to drag someone under it. and i still don't get why you drive it.

MrsDoolittle · 08/11/2005 22:39

Or people walking.

Skribble · 08/11/2005 22:39

No I wasn't trying to make a joke, make a point maybe as the spitting venom has been so severe on this thread. Don't get all excited when you have missed my point.

elastamum · 08/11/2005 22:40

Im off to bed now, I think I will stay off the roads for a few days....

Skribble · 08/11/2005 22:42

Is it really? You don't even know the height or design of my car or why i drive it. Under or over the pedestrian is going to have severe or fatal injuries with any vehicle.

handlemecarefully · 08/11/2005 22:42

yep, I'm turning in too. Was supposed to be getting an early night...

princesspeahead · 08/11/2005 22:42

they should pay road tax... why? because they use the roads as little as possible? because their only contribution to global warming is the occasional fart? because....

no. give up.
you are clearly pissed moondog - sleep it off!

moondog · 08/11/2005 22:43

I wish I was pph.

Sober as a judge,me.

handlemecarefully · 08/11/2005 22:44

That's true skribble, the biggest factor in pedestrian mortality is the speed of the vehicle (that statistic re at 30mph 80% chance of survival, but at 40mph 80% chance of dying)....

Skribble · 08/11/2005 22:46

Statistically I stand more chance of mowing down a pheasant or a rabbit than a child.
Never even come close to pedestrian collision, taken out a few squirrels and nearly a deer.

skinnycow · 08/11/2005 22:53

"By sophable on Tuesday, 8 November, 2005 10:04:35 PM

so pjsmum and skinnycow: given all the irrefutable arguments on here (vis they are more dangerous, they do guzzle more petrol and they do take up more room) why???? it is cause of what you think it says about you isn't it??? the irony the irony"

Nope! I like sitting high up and being able to spot those parking spaces that everyone else many feet below me cant see!

Skribble · 08/11/2005 22:57

Nobody realises, but mine isn't more dangerous, or less economical or bigger than most family saloons. Rates much better on all 3 than a clapped out old Volvo anyway.

NotQuiteCockney · 09/11/2005 06:33

I don't know much about mpg, as we don't own a car. We sometimes use a neighbour's car, which gets 40mpg I think? In the city? It's a newish Nissan.

And if that arrangement stops working, we'll probably use this carshare scheme. I say "we", I don't actually drive.

At any rate, I hadn't realised fuel efficiency for 4x4s had improved (and the pedestrian impact issues). A lot of the argument against them is about the US, where 4x4s are subject to the same fuel efficiency rules as small trucks. So some of them are really really bad there.

I don't really have an issue against them in the countryside. But I live in London. And I see lots of people with only two kids using them for the school run ... and many of them live really quite close.

(NB: I was not saying 4x4s = murder. I was just saying the "unless you're environmentally perfect, you can't complain about 4x4s" thing is silly. It's like saying "you can't complain about people littering in the street unless you recycle and compost all your rubbish".)

I'm probably more bothered than usual about car drivers this week because a tunnel, about a mile from us, has been knocked out in one direction, so all the traffic is completely gridlocked, nearly all the time. And the roads are still full of people sitting alone in their cars. Polluting my streets and going nowhere.

beatie · 09/11/2005 07:51

Skribble - What car do you drive?

skinnycow · 09/11/2005 08:06

NQC - are you saying that every car you see if full of people? just because someone owns a 4x4 doesnt mean they too have to become the taxi service

skinnycow · 09/11/2005 08:08

bad news about your tunnel though - how did it happen?

pjsmum · 09/11/2005 08:45

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