My child was hit by a pen, thrown by a teacher

[Tiredallthetimelaura]

So my daughter who is in year 8 was in a lesson when her teacher 'cold called' her a question. My daughter responded she didn't know the answer and the teacher then threw a highlighter pen at her, hitting her on the arm. The teacher then did it again to another student, also hitting them on the arm. We have reached level 2 of a complaint, but it's always investigated by management within the academy. The school keep down playing what happened and not investigating what we ask. This teacher is still teaching, although my daughter isn't going in on the day of that lesson, which is greatly affecting her attendance. The school said they would move my daughter so she could do a different lesson (double Maths or double English), but we said no! This feels like a punishment to our daughter. She wants to do that lesson, just not with that teacher... and we agree.
Any advice on what/how the school legally should be handling this? Happy to answer any further questions Xx

Yeah, you really need to get the hang of how quoting and replying works. The person you're trying to reply to there might well not even see your post, which is ironic as they are telling you you should check the quote responses.

Lol you are ridiculous. Why would anyone be a teacher!? I can’t believe you are making this into thing

...ok.....so how did being caned turn him violent again?

So you want the teacher, who was on 6 months leave to go back to her mother country, dismissed and court charges bought against her, maybe leading to a prison sentence. (It must have been quite a serious reason for the school to of allowed this absence.)
However, now the whole class will not have any more lessons for the rest of the year in this subject because a replacement will not be found at this late date.

Fieldsaview was joking, surely? Have you lost your sense of humour?

It was just an example of what he went through I didn't want to have to elaborate. My partner does not trust teachers he does believe that there is institutional racism. It affected him in more ways than you will ever understand.

Well you can't know what I understand. But what you seem to be saying now is that racism caused his problems rather than being caned. That's an entirely different argument.

I did wonder. Buit it's not like there aren't plenty of people here who say things like that in all seriousness, so, not knowing "Fieldsaview", I can't be sure. Can you?

People come on here for experiences and advice to know what they might do in a certain situation. Not an automatic, you are right, and we support you. "A group of mums" doesn't describe this cohort: we will have different approaches, politics, experiences. That's part of point of having a discussion site for Mumsnet and all who partake.

You contacted the entire year 8 class and asked for statements because a teacher threw a highlighter that hit your DD on a blazer covered arm? She’s never going to live that down, no wonder she’s not keen on going!

It’s very telling you can’t articulate what outcome you want from all of this and I wonder if you’ve lost sight of what’s best for your DD and are engaging in some sort of personal crusade for reasons of your own?

I don’t think teachers should throw highlighters at pupils as a general rule and it’s reasonable to contact the school about it but you really should now be saying to your DD you’re fine, move on.

I cant answer for him I don't know how he feels he rarely talks about it. I was only giving an example. Teachers fighting their students is shocking my partner told me he was punching her. I suppose violence was normalised back then.

Cold calling is actually a teaching term and technique.
If you read all my posts, I contacted some parents who they then asked their children what happened. I did this because a child reached out to my daughter stating that she felt she was being led by a staff member to write something different, this then made another child come forward with the same feeling. So therefore how can the school statements be trusted. Hence I reached out to some parents. All kids were happy to report back what actually happened! That actually speaks volumes!

Oh, you think resilience is something you learn at school? That's the only explanation to find any kind of sense in your post.
No, resilience is crucial skill with foundations put in place way before school. I've no idea what your partner and dad have to do with it but, I doubt the cane 'turned him violent'

Crikey! Our teachers would hurl the wooden board rubbers with intent. It's ridiculous to make this much fuss over basically nothing.

It was a violent tool to use and the teachers used it as a power tool to control children. Resilience comes from making decisions if there is something you don't like speak up and do something about it. Resilience is not learning how to tolerate what others do that make you unhappy. That's what most posters are telling the op to do just get on with it and stop being a snowflake which is wrong and does not teach resilience.

What a situation you are creating, how embarrassing for you and your kid.

The word resilience is spoken a lot in regards to children. They should put up and shut up and get on with it. Schools are like prisons. Adults wouldn't tolerate that sort of behaviour at work they would find another job. Why should young people fear going to school because it doesn't make them resilient it turns them into introverts

To turn the tables somewhat. Two schools in my area have gone on shut down strike because of pupil behaviour. The schools have actually closed until parents instil some respect in their children. The teachers have got to the very end of their patience and tolerance of undisciplined and unruly children. This is primary school children. Children slapping teachers. Children bullying other children whilst jeering at teachers trying to stop it. It's appalling. On some occasions 10 year olds physically challenging teachers who try to separate them from others.
On a couple of occasions a knife was produced.

Why should teachers put up and shut up and get on with it? Teachers in their droves are deciding they can't tolerate this behaviour at work. They are finding other jobs. Some teachers hate their jobs because of the shit they know they will face day after day.

I respected my teachers even when I felt it unfair. My daughter did also, when she felt she hadn't had a fair deal. That's what happens in the world and you need to learn to prove yourself and negotiate and act civilly.

Today's shit parenting is teaching kids that they have no responsibility to anyone or anything and they are entitled to whatever they want whenever they want it.
It's why so many kids nowadays leave school and can't keep a job down.
I manage applications for apprenticeships at a building college.

You can see it quite clearly when they arrive as apprentices age 16.
Some arrive on the dot at their placements and work hard and try to learn.
They get on well.

Others take the piss and turn up late, or ring and say they're not feeling well, or have a headache. They genuinely think that their employer will just have to suck it up. They are not feeling like working today and they are so used to being
coddled that they have no idea that's not how the world works. "I woke up in the night and couldn't get back to sleep so I'm too tired to come in" doesn't cut it.

They have no concept that if you work for someone and get paid by that someone, being a bit out of sorts does not get you out of going to work.
You will be unreliable and you will be sacked. And it's those entitled arses who will complain that it's not faaaaiiiir! How dare you sack me. I didn't feel well.

See, making kids think that they are the ones in charge from the get go really limits their capability. It makes them lean back into their entitlement, thinking the whole world will accommodate that entitlement. It won't. They'll just end up unemployable.

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It’s quite amazing people are saying it’s not a big deal for a teacher to throw something at a child.

And to all those saying my daughter lacks resilience... she's been in and out of hospitals since she was 3, she has good morals and strong loyalty, she is the school captain of her Hockey team, football team and netball team and last academic year was the only student in her school to get 100% attendance with zero negative behaviour points and won more awards than anyone else. She is 13 years old! She went to her music lesson to be taught, not have something thrown at her!
She's the perfect amount of fiesty whilst also being incredibly honest and respectful. Resilience isn't something she is lacking in! But trust and faith in a teacher who has broken that trust is completely on the teacher, not my daughter!

LOL. Missed 5 weeks of school because a pen was thrown, what fucking nonsense. OP, if you feel that strongly, put your hand in your pocket and pay for the right school? State schools don’t have the time or the money for this abject nonsense.

Hugs but you sound rather extra. I would encourage my child to see it as a learning experience. My daughters tutor called her a space cadet...Its true.lol But I have taught my kids to be completely of good humor. No one will attack my child. But the throwing of a pen is nothing really.

My dad left school at 14 and went straight to work. My partner was caned and it turned him violent. Now and then he tells me a story of how girl got into a fight with a male teacher at school

This all sounds a bit extreme. I left school and went to work at 14. It wasn't unusual in the 60s. It may not have been legal but it was common.

Unfortunately some people in my school got the cane but it resulted in them abhorring violence. I think you might be a one off.

that is insane 5 WEEKS?? no sorry you are a drama queen and your obviously bored OP. I wouldn't have 5 weeks to dedicate to such an offense.