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Year 11 - 2024/2025 - Support Thread - the final stretch

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QueenMabby · 21/03/2025 16:11

A new thread to take is to exams and beyond! All welcome.

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Hollyhedge · 24/03/2025 08:30

Re. CGP books of past papers. World of Books has ‘very good’ condition used ones. £4-5 and you get fourth free.

minisnowballs · 24/03/2025 10:09

We have had big GCSE panics this weekend - first time DD2 has rung us in floods of tears and asked to come home (she couldn't - it's 100 miles and she didn't ring until 545pm on Saturday night. Fortunately another local mum scooped her up for Sunday and she had a more 'normal' day). I felt like the worst mother ever but I think the pressure is mounting.

It emerged that all the coursework had to be in this week - so that meant composition for music, drama devising log and both drama monologues and duologues in a week. Plus final checks for history and English. So obviously this is the week when the school scheduled her grade 8 bassoon exam.

Predictably enough she got some fluey virus on the monday, which made the whole thing far too much.

Friday night at 8pm she was still in some kind of composition class making final tweaks, and last night she was cutting words frantically from her drama log. But it is now done. That's 60% of music, 25% of English and history, and I think 60% of drama done. And (thankfully) a distinction on the bassoon exam. But she's still a bit of a mess and was sobbing about 'not knowing how to revise'.

Seems to mostly not be in lessons this week as there's a symphony orchestra concert weds and thurs. School trip for five days after that which really isn't going to do anything for her grades as it's drama and mainly just a big treat.

Then she had really better knuckle down for the exams. I shall be glad to have her home for the easter hols. Prob need to make more plans to be down there as the exams start as well I think.

destiel00 · 24/03/2025 11:52

I'm pretty much giving up with dd.
Drama performance and NEA is done, art practical in 5 weeks.
Media NEA done.
But no revision at all for other subjects.
Whether that changes after her art practical...Hope so!

QueenMabby · 24/03/2025 14:50

I think the coursework heavy “practical” subjects are so hard. They’re having to put out masses of work for NEAs and portfolios right at the time when teachers are laying on the pressure for revision and homework to get syllabi finished in time for the exams.

dd has English coursework for both Lit and Lang (40% for each) but they’ve mostly been completed during lesson time so we’ve not had a heavy load at home.

dd has started revising at weekends now. Not loads but some. Most subjects are finishing off but languages (she does Spanish, German and Latin) are still going strong!

dd has a choir trip this week (a visit to a Cathedral and singing Evensong there) and a concert where she’ll need to be out of lessons for ensemble rehearsals but she seems to be pretty good at catching up on work she’s missed.

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stickygotstuck · 25/03/2025 08:42

Thanks for the new thread.

@Daffodilpup , sorry to hear of DS's struggles. I hope he manages to get the 4 he needs in English.

We're in a similar situation with DD. Except i have been banging my head against the wall with school for 2 years so they saw what I could see clearly - that DD was doing uncharacteristically badly in timed assessments while she was doing really well in her work, working hard, is intelligent and conscientious. And she's been diagnosed for 3 years now! Until she got 3s where 8s were expected in some November mocks. Then huge rush to apply for extra time. Idiots 🤬.

She finds the time pressure hugely stressful and also finds the wording of questions in some past papers terribly ambiguous (and I agree!) so ends up answering the wrong thing after much thinking about it and writing pages and pages. Very frustrating, for her and us!

There's a weird hidden dyslexia thing going on too, I suspect. Which is too late to do anything about and has managed to hide because, ironically, language is her thing.

stickygotstuck · 25/03/2025 08:52

Oh, I forgot to ask, are any of your schools offering early study leave? And are any DCs taking it?

DD (ASD) has been begging to be allowed to study at home. She finds it impossible to revise in school and comes home frustrated and exhausted, unable to do any work after having to put up with school all day.

All this bearing in mind we've had to work extremely hard over the years to keep her in school and protecting her mental health because it's such a strain for her.

I have discussed this with the SENCO and HoY. Currently being fobbed off and being told it's "so, so important they're in school". Being in school is what's going to make her fail!! I really don't want to have another 'I told you so' moment with school. There's tool much at stake for DD. I can feel many 'sick' days coming our way ...

newmum1976 · 25/03/2025 08:56

stickygotstuck · 25/03/2025 08:52

Oh, I forgot to ask, are any of your schools offering early study leave? And are any DCs taking it?

DD (ASD) has been begging to be allowed to study at home. She finds it impossible to revise in school and comes home frustrated and exhausted, unable to do any work after having to put up with school all day.

All this bearing in mind we've had to work extremely hard over the years to keep her in school and protecting her mental health because it's such a strain for her.

I have discussed this with the SENCO and HoY. Currently being fobbed off and being told it's "so, so important they're in school". Being in school is what's going to make her fail!! I really don't want to have another 'I told you so' moment with school. There's tool much at stake for DD. I can feel many 'sick' days coming our way ...

Last year with dd1, I emailed the school a week before exams started and said she’d only be coming in for exams from then on. They never responded, but never chased up where she was either. Worked well for us.

stickygotstuck · 25/03/2025 10:37

@newmum1976 thanks.
We've already said to the school that she's only going for the exams from May.

I think that's what we're going to have to do that from Easter, just tell them this is the way it's going to be.

I think I may email individual teachers, see what they're planning to do for the next few weeks. DD says there's a couple of subjects that she's probably find helpful to do to. So it's not as if she's just refusing to attend for the hell of it.

Daffodilpup · 25/03/2025 11:09

We haven’t heard anything about study leave yet. A friend who had a year 11 last year said they stayed in school until half term and then after half term they were allowed to only go in for exams. I assume that’s what they are going to do this year too.

NotDonna · 25/03/2025 17:41

Half term is midway through exam season though.
Our school go on leave after May bank holiday.
Two of mine are ND and I do agree that masking all day can be simply too much! @stickygotstuck school’s policies will be suitable for the majority of the teens at that school and not necessarily in your DDs best interests. You know her best and I think it’s worth chatting with DD and working out what would work best for her and supporting her through that. If attendance throughout the exams is expected but too much for her, can she cherry pick which days / sessions are worthwhile? I wouldn’t care if school agree or not as too much is at stake. I was a conformist in a previous life but 3 kids later definitely no more.

SuperSue77 · 25/03/2025 18:53

stickygotstuck · 25/03/2025 08:52

Oh, I forgot to ask, are any of your schools offering early study leave? And are any DCs taking it?

DD (ASD) has been begging to be allowed to study at home. She finds it impossible to revise in school and comes home frustrated and exhausted, unable to do any work after having to put up with school all day.

All this bearing in mind we've had to work extremely hard over the years to keep her in school and protecting her mental health because it's such a strain for her.

I have discussed this with the SENCO and HoY. Currently being fobbed off and being told it's "so, so important they're in school". Being in school is what's going to make her fail!! I really don't want to have another 'I told you so' moment with school. There's tool much at stake for DD. I can feel many 'sick' days coming our way ...

@stickygotstuck I totally hear you. My yr11 is fine in scholl, but her AuDHD brother in yr8 really struggles. Luckily his school is really supportive and agreed to him "flexi-schooling" so he does one day a week at home and 4 in school. I had an issue with school saying that because his attendance is at max 80% he hits the LEA trigger of being below 90% attendance and therefore any days off "sick" need to be backed up by medical evidence. I wrote to them and said that this was potentially unlawful discrimination as his attendance is low because of the flexischooling and the flexischooling is to supoort his ASD which is classed as a disability and protected under law. They responded by saying that if I say that he is absent due to his ASD then they will not expect medical evidence - bingo - now if he needs a "sick" day I may say it's a nasty cold, but it causes sensory issues as a result of his ASD - therefore I always tie it back to the ASD to avoid them requiring additional medical evidence - I'm not taking my son to the GP for a sick note when he has a cold!

I just wanted to share that with you in case it helps you argue your case with the school in any way - pointing out the law often works wonders. I think there are loads of people who don't get it, and I'm ashamed to say I would probably be one of them if it weren't for my son. DD in yr11 hasn't missed a single day of school since she started in reception, but with her brother I will allow him a random day at home when I sense he is getting overwhelmed or if I know it's a day of not much going on (his school - a different one to his sister's - has 90 minute lessons!! If it's a subject he doesn't engage with such as art or RS or even one he is due to miss altogether by being in their inclusion centre, then I may keep him home - or rather, not force him to go in, which it what it feels like I'm doing most mornings). Educationally it is doing him no harm - he is exceeding in most areas (except art, dance and DT!) and in fact my argument is that it is supporting his education by keeping him mentally well enough to cope with the schooling he needs. His access to education is dependent on him being regulated and actually being in school 100% of the time will cause him to become dysregulated.

I really think the education system needs to adapt its approach for ND pupils. As you have spotted with your daughter, a different approach is needed and the one size fits all will not work to her advantage. She has an equal right to an education as any other child but by forcing her to do the same as other children is not actually treating her fairly or giving her equal access to education.

Sorry, I could bang on about this all day! Wishing your DD all the very best with her exams and you the very best in advocating for your DD with the school.

@NotDonna - I'm the same, generally stuck to convention all my life, but having kids has completely changed my outlook. It took having daughters to make me support women's rights, despite being a woman myself!

stickygotstuck · 25/03/2025 22:25

Thank you @NotDonna
That's just it. Despite it being against my nature, I'm past playing nice and abiding by all the rules. They are really doing more harm than good, that's obvious.

It's more that I want to know how to report DD's likely absences. I don't want to blame it all on undefined illness. But will if it's easiest!

I kean towards @SuperSue77's suggestion and quote disability discrimination law at them. But I don't even want to do that, just simply tell them 'this is how it's going to be'. Then quote the law if they question it.

I just can't get my head round the school seemingly not getting it.

Totally agree that the system really is not fit for many ND children, and all the while schools almost gaslight parents telling them it definitely is, trust them, they are the experts. Not on these kids, they're really not.

Thanks very much for the good wishes. I hope your DCs do well and the very least feel good about themselves. Good luck and strength to you!

NotDonna · 25/03/2025 22:40

@stickygotstuck is she staying there for 6th form?

stickygotstuck · 26/03/2025 07:17

@NotDonna , no she's not, she's going to college.

Which is a double edged sword, because of the huge change.

Her school is plan C at the moment because they don't offer one of her options.

In a way, it's a shame because her actual teachers are good and she has a good relationship with them, and the clases will be smaller (and hopefully free from the more disruptive elements that make her want to chew her own head off).

NotDonna · 26/03/2025 08:53

I would absolutely decide a plan with your DD and let school know what you’ll be doing. Her MH is crucial and these exams are important. It’s a balancing act for you and her and she’s a priority not the school system. Is she ok home studying if you’re working? Can you take her in & pick up at odd times if she’s cherry picking?

stickygotstuck · 26/03/2025 12:15

Yes, she is quite good at revising by herself. Although there's only so much left in the tank some days and can struggle with concentration.

Between DH and I we could manage pickups at odd times, I think, and have done some days (for 'appointments')

You are right, both her MH and the exams are important, in that order.
It's bloody hard to balance them! But it's obvious that the exams won't be passed without DD being well enough and not exhausted.

The sheer exhaustion is the other big issue with her. I keep reminding her that Easter is round the corner, but even getting there seems out of reach at the moment.

So yes, it's going to have to be a matter of telling the school, not asking 🙄

Daffodilpup · 26/03/2025 13:06

NotDonna · 25/03/2025 17:41

Half term is midway through exam season though.
Our school go on leave after May bank holiday.
Two of mine are ND and I do agree that masking all day can be simply too much! @stickygotstuck school’s policies will be suitable for the majority of the teens at that school and not necessarily in your DDs best interests. You know her best and I think it’s worth chatting with DD and working out what would work best for her and supporting her through that. If attendance throughout the exams is expected but too much for her, can she cherry pick which days / sessions are worthwhile? I wouldn’t care if school agree or not as too much is at stake. I was a conformist in a previous life but 3 kids later definitely no more.

Yes it is halfway. We heard last night via email that this is the plan. They will go to lessons when they don’t have exams and teachers will lead revision sessions for them in the lessons. Not sure if he’d be better off at home revising or in school at the moment.

HereComesYourMam · 29/03/2025 08:32

DS finally got his exam timetable yesterday. I'd already found out the dates online but it was good to have them confirmed (I have form for getting important dates wrong!). All there except for French speaking... has anyone else's DC got their date for this? It's AQA.

IThinkImAMathmoMum · 29/03/2025 09:10

The window for schools to do language speaking exams for AQA is 1st April to 16th May and schools will run them for several days/weeks depending on numbers and teacher availability. DD school have just said it will be after the Easter holidays (and her French teacher assured me it won't clash with her Art exam) but precise timings will come later.

HereComesYourMam · 29/03/2025 17:27

Thanks @IThinkImAMathmoMum 🙂

NotDonna · 29/03/2025 17:35

Daffodilpup · 26/03/2025 13:06

Yes it is halfway. We heard last night via email that this is the plan. They will go to lessons when they don’t have exams and teachers will lead revision sessions for them in the lessons. Not sure if he’d be better off at home revising or in school at the moment.

My DD3 would definitely do better at home during exam season. My other two DDs found that being around other students added to the stress. They also had strong ideas of what topics they’d want to revise. School doesn’t offer sessions after May Day so no decisions needed thankfully. But if your DS will just faff about then the revision sessions at school are probably crucial. Plus. If he’s chill and won’t get too anxious then probs be fine too!

SB1971 · 31/03/2025 11:21

I’m not sure on the study leave front-we have another parents evening on Wednesday post mocks so will ask for an update then. I think that they go in till May half term as normal with lessons and exams and then post then just for exams. This will benefit DS as he will do more in school than out I reckon.
I have put his dates in the family calendar-there are a lot of them and he did RS last year and does 8 in total so imagine others have a lot more. Seems really intense-my DD GCSE’s were not externally marked due to covid and I just don’t think it felt as intense as now. Maybe time has dulled my memory!
DS on a positive note is buckling down to some work now -yay

QueenMabby · 31/03/2025 11:44

Dd only has two full weeks of timetable left now. This week and then one week after the Easter holidays. The week after that is Monday and Tuesday only before leavers’ events on the Wednesday. Her first exam is the day after.

She’s been given loads of work to be getting on with. Most subjects are finished now with the last bits of languages being covered rather quickly!

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WhenDoISleep · 31/03/2025 13:05

We are still waiting to find out study leave arrangements. Based on the last few years I’m expecting DS to be in school until the Friday prior to the first full week of exams and then to only need to be in school when he has an exam.

DS spent all weekend finalising his DT NEA for submission this morning - there was certainly more work that needed to be done than just the few finishing touches that I was told about. However, it’s done and submitted now, I’m just hoping he gets a decent mark.

We have a final parents evening this week, it’s in person as well (normally online) so that is likely to be interesting. DS got his results for his second set of mocks and it certainly looks like he needs to do a great deal of work in the next few weeks.

minisnowballs · 31/03/2025 13:47

DD2 has already finished for Easter! She was absolutely exhausted due to two nights of Symphony concerts (we went down to see the second one) and seemed far more stressed by being principal bassoon for the first time than by her GCSEs. She's now gone to Greece for a total jolly of a drama trip - but is back tomorrow to knuckle down to some work.

She's back April 22, and then study leave starts on May 2. However since she can't miss either orchestra or choir rehearsals or music lessons, most of hers will be taken in the boarding house. I'm assured there are teachers around and other places she can go to work when she gets fed up of her (tiny, shared) room.

Fear I've been concentrating so hard on her big sister and my ward that I've barely thought about her GCSEs. Grade cards for the end of term looked ok. Fingers crossed.

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