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Ridiculous uniform policy for secondary

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freakinthespreadsheets · 12/07/2024 13:07

I live in a fairly poor working class area, former mining village. I don't even have secondary age kids but this has got me riled up.
The local secondary has been taken over by a MAT and introduced a new uniform. They say that the blazer, PE kit and jumper must be logo'd from the supplier (which i think is pretty standard everywhere) but also that every item MUST be Trutex branded. Shirts, trousers and the skirt (which you can't even find a dupe for if you wanted to as it's a silly tartan design). No supermarket brands allowed. The boys trousers must be sturdy or slim fit, girls can be slim fit only (so "fuck you" to girls with thick thighs then??)
They also insist the trousers must not be skin tight fitting and the skirt must be knee length, or detentions will be issued (but they're only allowing one design/fit, from one supplier, so if it doesn't fit a taller/chunkier teen then what are parents to do?).
Not to mention the fabrics are scratchy and kids with sensitive skin (I was one, and Mum had to order my uniforms online from a place that did skinkind fabrics) who might not get on with the plasticy Teflon fabrics.
I find myself fuming on behalf of these parents and teens - as a curvy, tall female with sensitive skin this would NOT do for me at all! Not even sure what my question is, I guess am I being unreasonable in my thinking that this is OTT and doesn't follow the new government guidance (which I know isn't fully compulsory but still)

Edit to add : in a poor working class area, to set a kid up to attend the local high school looks to be around £350 for uniform - the prices are awful, £35 for a skirt etc

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MouseofCommons · 21/07/2024 13:49

Yanbu. Most secondary uniform isn't fit for purpose.
Smart shoes, when most offices are smart casual and we all wear fresh clean trainers. Shoes aren't fit for walking distances in either.
Blazers, barely see a suit in our business park these days. Those people stand out like a sore thumb.
Ties, nope, barely a thing anymore.

Teens need to be able to wear comfortable clothes and uniform polo shirts. Would take away the sensory issues straight away too.

SummerDays2020 · 21/07/2024 13:51

TizerorFizz · 21/07/2024 13:44

All these companies are wasting their money then? I don’t think so. I think some of you live in your own bubbles of similar people. Not my world.

No one has said that, though. Everyone has consistently said that yes, many teens like brands. But not all.

I think you must be in a bubble if you think all teens are exactly the same and they all like brands.

SummerDays2020 · 21/07/2024 13:53

MouseofCommons · 21/07/2024 13:49

Yanbu. Most secondary uniform isn't fit for purpose.
Smart shoes, when most offices are smart casual and we all wear fresh clean trainers. Shoes aren't fit for walking distances in either.
Blazers, barely see a suit in our business park these days. Those people stand out like a sore thumb.
Ties, nope, barely a thing anymore.

Teens need to be able to wear comfortable clothes and uniform polo shirts. Would take away the sensory issues straight away too.

This was one of the reasons I chose my DD's school as they don't wear ties or blazers. They wear open neck shirts and jumpers. DD has as a reasonable adjustment that she can wear trainers.

TizerorFizz · 22/07/2024 12:17

My DDs didn’t have ties. V neck shirts and jumpers. I don’t think school is linked to work attire. 6th form yes. Y7, no. Of course they don’t need ties and blazers but I don’t think parents want to buy school uniform coats so blazers are substituted. My DDs had wool blazers so like mini coats. Most parents don’t want the expense so polyester blazers it is. I agree they are awful.

TizerorFizz · 22/07/2024 12:18

I’m also not in a bubble. I just understand fashion economics and marketing.

Needmorelego · 22/07/2024 12:28

@TizerorFizz most parents would prefer to buy a hoodie (less than a tenner from Primark) and a basic winter coat than a stupid blazer regardless of whether it's polyester or wool.

urbanbuddha · 22/07/2024 12:31

St Paul’s, which regularly tops the lists for the best girls school in the country, is non-uniform. Doesn’t seem to affect employability. The focus is on learning.
If you have a look at their website you can see that it’s not a fashion parade.

Parker231 · 22/07/2024 12:44

Needmorelego · 22/07/2024 12:28

@TizerorFizz most parents would prefer to buy a hoodie (less than a tenner from Primark) and a basic winter coat than a stupid blazer regardless of whether it's polyester or wool.

The big advantage of a hoodie is that in non uniform schools it can be worn during the school day, evenings, weekends and holidays whereas no one is going to be seen out of school in any item of school uniform.

Needmorelego · 22/07/2024 12:46

@Parker231 exactly.
One hoodie + one decent coat can be worn anytime. School or not school.
A blazer can only be worn to school so parents would still need to buy a coat and hoodie.
Why buy 3 things when 2 does the job.

Natsku · 22/07/2024 16:03

My secondary school actually had a hoodie as part of the uniform, as an alternative to the uniform jumper. Weirdly I was the only person who wore it, everyone else opted for the jumper.
Then it got taken over by an academy trust some years after I left and went down the blazer and shirt and tie route.

Natsku · 22/07/2024 16:04

Oh, but they did get out free uniforms to their first batch of students when they reopened as an academy. That's quite nice at least.

Outd00rs · 05/09/2024 15:08

Is it illegal to have a single supplier? Don’t think it can be as all the schools in our area have to use the same on supplier in town (queues out the door at this time of year). Secondary school uniform is expensive and not suited to learning.. our primary school has great uniform - polo short, sweater and anything grey on the bottom. Kids are comfy and learn well and it’s washes a treat - I’m all for it. Cut to year seven and it’s a white shirt which gets stained and has to be ironed, plastic blazer (logo £50), tie (really even my hubby hasn’t worn a tie for twenty years), trousers or skirt (skirt with logo and only comes in waist sizes so on my tiny girl comes down to her ankles, on her tall friends it’s above the knee and they risk detention) logo jumper, logo PE t shirt and shorts, stud boots, school PE socks the list goes on and on. It costs hundreds to kit out my kids each year and it is uncomfortable and frankly my very petite daughter looks ridiculous in a blazer and tie - like she’s dressed up as a 1920s banker! Plus the ties are dangerous in DT and science. And don’t get me started on skirt lengths, shoe types, hairstyle restrictions… aaaah! It’s not getting them ready for real life at all. They even have a rule that sixth formers have to wear business wear now! What? We wore ripped jeans by that age - so oppressive!

Needmorelego · 05/09/2024 15:19

@Outd00rs most schools I know seem to sell uniforms via the school themselves then also at one specific shop.
I suppose that's how they get round the "no single supplier" thing.

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