Friend won appeal based on lie

[Cartwrightandson]

Just found out a friend has won her appeal based on a lie.

For admission to church of England school, it's church attendance every 2 weeks for over 2 years, friend was awarded 25 points when minimum or last child admitted received 30 points. Friend has got member of the catholic church to write a supporting letter stating church attendance was over 2 years. When it wasn't.

I'm just stunned..this isn't the person I know, lying like this. It means someone else's child won't get a place, as it was oversubscribed..

Good. Admission to state funded schools shouldn't be dependent on faith anyway- they should all be secular. It's discriminatory.

I know that it's not the point but they won't take a place away from someone who's already been offered the place, they will admit this child over the PAN. It's still not right though. IMO it's the church to blame here. The appeal panel can only act on the evidence they're given.

Why would the RC cleric write in support of a C of E school? Confused!

Ironic eh? Hoisted by their own petard. It's inadvertently hilarious.

Someone at a church was prepared to put a lie in writing? Why would they do that?

I think you're friend is being economic with the truth.

The initial SIF would have been signed by the PP. If that contained an error, and the error cost her the place, then it is right that she has now received one.

But a random RC friend writing a letter won't overturn what a PP has signed. or are you saying that a different priest has signed to say she was attending in a different parish?

Please focus on your own life

No, the priest signed the initial letter saying they attended church from September 2020 (different priest was there), church was closed because of covid and they didn't start attending until September 2022 and they applied 2023

While I believe that not being honest is completely wrong, the secondary school admissions processes are completely mad. In 2024 I don't believe that any school admissions should be based on any faith. If it makes you feel better, the child will know that they have received the place by deceit which will have repercussions.

Attending for that year may have redefined as attending online services, are you sure it wasn't something like that scenario?

I don’t think they can be penalised for not attending services that weren’t held due to the pandemic. Honestly, get a life and stress about important things. I imagine they went to church a bit rather than the priest lied. So many people do that, attend church when they want to get their dc into a school. If they’d forged documents that would be different.

They did not attend online or in person until September 2022

You said sept 22? Now you’re saying 2023. That’s still a year enduring Catholic services 🤷🏻‍♀️

They haven’t taken someone else’s place. Appeals are heard on their own merit.

Exactly.

Attended a Catholic Church, then.
You've not explained why they'd do that for a C of E school, as I asked upthread?

Cof E schools often give priority to other religions as well (so CofE, then other Christian, then other faiths).

They've aced immorally. Probably impossible to prove though.

Yes, but if you were going for a C of E school, and you weren't religious, surely you'd get a C of E vicar to act as a referee?

I don't know why he has chosen to do this when there is a local catholic high school in the nearest city...but he has

If the priest signed a SIF stating attendance since 2020, and that was the "initial letter" (SIF?) and that was submitted on time, then I don't quite follow on what grounds they appealed.

You get your own priest to do the reference.

Many CofE schools treat all Churches Together applicants on an equal footing, so there's nothing unusual about RC references in those circs

Thank you! I just did not get it 👍

Nothing to do with you sorry op get on with your own life.
No ones going to hell over a form for a school.

I am smiling at this
My DC started a C of E school almost 18 years ago
There were loads of Catholic children who didnt get a place at the co-located Catholic school but got one at the C of E (which was actually harder to get in to) because the priest had to be honest when completing the catholic attendance but could be more flexible when doing the the C of E one!

It’s almost like….perhaps….we shouldn’t have discriminatory religion based schools isn’t it