SW London grammar and private year 7 entry 2024 - Continued

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Do anyone know if they really send state outcome emails / text in the evening tomorrow ? Which they would send morning !

HI Wondermum, apparently they release results by county. I've heard that London will be at 5pm, but its just what I've heard, rather than read myself.

London is at 5pm not “by 5pm” so unfortunately that means waiting list movement Might happen only on the following days. Good luck everyone.

Re KGS - don’t think it’s become less selective. I know a few bright kids who got offers at Emanuel / Alleyns but not KGS. That said - I did notice these rejections were coming from the preps. There were 5 kids at the local state primary with offers.. I wondered if their state / independent ratio is more in favour of state than other schools but just a hunch.

Thank you !! Yes i think no WL movement til Monday 😬

This is a really good point, and also perhaps explains why WL aren't moving as quickly as people would like.

Most people we know turned down offers they definitely weren't going to take pretty quickly (as did we) and maybe kept 2-3 to consider post offer holders' visits. Some people I know are still debating that shortlist, while others are awaiting state school offers tomorrow.

And then the final piece of the jigsaw is awaiting confirmation from your chosen school that all the paperwork / deposit has gone through and your child's place is confirmed before you turn down your second choice school. That has taken almost a week for some people I know, so they're only now in a position to reject their second choice.

Anyone with state school / grammar offers is going to take the weekend to mull things over, so I suspect many won't accept / reject until very close to the wire - Mon / Tues next week. Very hard for those on WL (and esp for those having to pay a deposit on another school). I'm not sure there's a better way to do it, but wishing all those on WL very good luck.

Goodness it didn’t occur to me to check they had received the paperwork and all was confirmed. I just paid deposit , sent form and declined the others on the same day. Hopefully no issues there! Wobble.

Same here farfalla 😬 I did wait for an acknowledgement email but that’s all …

I’m sure if there are any technical issues they will approach you to fix them rather than tear up your acceptance though!

Yes when my dd went through this 4 years ago we didn't the email until 8pm... it's going to be a long day for many! Good luck all

This is an interesting question. My experience only relates to DS’s prep (non-selective). KGS appears to have taken a very wide pool of abilities for example kids who frequently sit around average (which is still high at 117 for standardised tests - we get the standardised average figure on reports). I think the pass mark is fairly high for KGS entrance exams (I’ve heard 80%) but as I said, the exam can be easily tutored for and I know people who did just that - targeted multiple choice English, short composition and maths tutoring (either themselves or with a professional).

In my fairly limited experience it appears that King’s and Hampton are possibly more “tutor proof” as those who tend to sit in the average band but were aggressively tutored received offers from Claremont, Epsom, Reeds, Ibstock and KGS but did not make it to second round of Hampton, King’s or St Paul’s (only a handful applied to St Ps and King’s). Re Hampton only 3/15 got offers. One such boy had 16 hours of tuition per week plus 8 further hours of homework… (offered KGS etc but did not make second round King’s/Hampton).

If it’s your top choice I think Atom could be useful for the maths and comprehension and then continuation writing for the written element. Good luck!

16 hours a week plus homework. When did they even fit this in? Poor child is all I can say. That’s 3 hours a day on top
if school! Assume
he had to drop all extra curricular too??

Surrey say "the evening of" so I doubt it'll be before 5pm.

I'm so glad we're all sorted as I can remember the amount of refreshing I did on Primary School day!

Hampton also offered to kids that academically are in the average band, heavily tutored, and they are not part of their prep school top set in maths or english.

all these schools have to feel lots of spots, and taking into account some parents really want the STP, KCS and maybe LU they will have KGS and Hampton next in the rank, which means these schools have to feel all the spots they have. Especially Hampton , since they have 200 boys per year from year9.

I can only speak for our prep (no academic entry requirements). No clue about others. At ours only 3 boys got offers out of 15. None with CATs below 130 and all in top set for maths and English… I don’t think the CATs or set matters, just depends if the exam style suits the kid. I think the maths and words and reasoning are somewhat unknowns which makes Hampton possibly harder to tutor for (but not impossible). KGS provide a very helpful 11+ pack with mock papers and according to DS the exam format was identical.

@farfallarocks - yes poor boy had to drop everything outside of school, including music and the school’s own prep / homework. I think his parents feel they did the right thing, when he was going through it, I really felt for him.

I’m mainly on here to see if the waitlist places have come up, especially Dulwich for you @Wondermumof4 - have my fingers firmly crossed.

Poor fella and I do hope he goes to a school where he is not totally stressed out for the next 7 years!

good luck to everyone waiting for state school places and waiting lists!

@Summerma thank you that is so kind !! Also crossing of course … we’ll see 🤞🏻

@farfallarocks - he’s off KGS. It’s a pretty huge turnaround though as he was in maths and English intervention from year 3 until the end of year 5! I think he’s on full relaxation mode now (understandably). I guess each parent does what they feel is best for their child. My DS would be a complete nightmare if I tried to pull 16 hours of tuition so I would never dare to try it! 😂

@Wondermumof4 🤞🤞

What time does morning registration start at St. Paul’s Girls’ School? What time does the school finish for year 7 & 8 students? Do they have classes on Saturdays? If so, what time does school end on Saturdays?

Are there no clubs offered for Year 7 students at SPGS? It seems there is currently only one after-school club listed on its timetable. Or do the school provide separate club list once the child joins in the school?

I’ve found schools are happy to answer these sorts of questions ItisaBeautifulLife, you could email the admissions team?

@ItisaBeautifulLife have you had a place from wl?
school finishes at 4.
no school on Saturday.
no afterschool club (they are alll during the day at lunch or before school)

Thank you. We received an offer but are still indecisive about which schools to choose from. I saw the timetable on the portal; I just want to double-check my understanding. The deadline to accept the offer is looming, and I have sleepless nights thinking about which is the best school for my daughter.

@ItisaBeautifulLife Do ask Admissions, they’re very helpful. There are a few after school clubs, but they are mostly in the long lunch break. It’s things like auditioned choirs / orchestras and the few clubs run by external providers (like dance and fencing). The school stays open until 6.00 though, so there is always somewhere to sit and do homework / chat with friends.

If you are looking for childcare or supervised activities every day, that’s not something the school provides. As far as I can tell, they expect the girls to travel home, or work independently, or take themselves straight to an activity they do nearer home. They don’t expect them to wait around to be picked up (though some are, in Y7) and they don’t keep girls busy with lots of compulsory after-school sport.

they have got your money, fear not!