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Chat GPT -Homework now pointless?

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mids2019 · 23/11/2023 06:59

My daughter was given an essay to write on reincarnation as part of religious studies homework.

All the class basically used AI write the homework leading to presumably a teacher spending hours marking the results of an algorithm. Is this a good use t of time? Can teachers identify the use of AI? Do we need a new model of teching/in term examination that will be meaningful going forward in this new AI world?

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AmaryllisChorus · 16/03/2024 10:41

RampantIvy · 16/03/2024 09:10

It depends on the size of the cohort. When DD was a student in a cohort of over 300 the students and teaching staff didn't build up any kind of rapport. They just didn't get to know each other. She did a STEM degree with many different topics so she only had the same lecturer a handful of times before the next topic.

Yeah, you're right. And it may be a bit easier for literature tutors to spot, as it's our job to analyse language usage and syntax patterns. A STEM tutor can't be expected to spot these.

AmaryllisChorus · 16/03/2024 10:42

Earwiggoearwiggoearwiggo · 16/03/2024 08:35

If one of my Year 7s handed this in, I'd be asking them in front of the whole class to explain what poignant, multifaceted and predicament mean. Then I'd be giving them a detention.

Oh wait, this is exactly what I have done to my pupils when they've handed in this stuff. 🤷‍♀️

Pupils have been given so many bloody assemblies etc about this, and they still use it. You're right, what is happening is homework is moving away from writing and towards research or revising something that will be used in the next lesson. But it means you have to do a lot more timed writing in lessons, which is a waste of class time.

That is an excellent way of challenging it! Grin

I wonder if it will mean a return to end of year hand-written exams instead of course work? Shame if so, for all the students who genuinely excel at coursework but go to pieces under exam conditions.

MrsHamlet · 16/03/2024 10:48

AmaryllisChorus · 16/03/2024 10:41

Yeah, you're right. And it may be a bit easier for literature tutors to spot, as it's our job to analyse language usage and syntax patterns. A STEM tutor can't be expected to spot these.

I particularly enjoy made up quotations

IGotItFromAgnes · 16/03/2024 10:50

MrsHamlet · 16/03/2024 10:48

I particularly enjoy made up quotations

It does a good line in made-up legal cases as well

sashh · 16/03/2024 10:51

@Earwiggoearwiggoearwiggo

In what was then second year, so year 8 I used the word, "nepotism", I was asked to explain it and did.

I have a feeling I was the subject of discussion in the staff room.

I am dyslexic but I didn't have a diagnosis so I was never in top sets.

Earwiggoearwiggoearwiggo · 16/03/2024 11:14

@sashh Oh I'm sure some kids know the meanings of these words! And if they have learnt them via ChatGPT, that's fine by me! But AI tends to turn out stuff that has a far more complicated vocabulary (and very deliberate use of differently structured complex sentences) than most secondary students, and I'm insulted by the 11 year olds that think I can't tell the difference between that and their normal work!

sashh · 17/03/2024 02:49

@Earwiggoearwiggoearwiggo

It's not just 11 year olds. I had an adult hand in a completely copied piece of work. I pulled it up on screen and she swore to me that she had used all the same books as the author and had written the work herself.

Then she claimed I was racist!.

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